Denial of Sentience in Animals

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(2017-09-13, 11:03 PM)DaveB Wrote: So do some single cells:

http://www.basic.northwestern.edu/g-buehler/FRAME.HTM

Obviously this makes moral arguments for veganism a bit tricky, but I think it is best to separate moral arguments from the fundamental problem of if/where/why consciousness cuts off as we descend the tree of animal life and enter the tree of plant life.

My main reason for thinking plants and single cells are conscious, is the sheer task of controlling a cell full of reactive chemicals to ensure that piles of unwanted bi-products are not produced. I mean looking at the chemistry of life, is a bit like looking at a Rube Goldberg cartoon. Without a guiding hand, neither would really work!

David

I guess you have seen this one before!?!
A white blood cell chasing after this one particular bacteria, ignoring a few others along the way. Like there is intent, purpose, differentiation, coupled with decisive action, in that white blood cell. It was hell-bent on that particular bacteria and no other - and didn't get distracted by that nearby bacteria that just sat there - which would have been a much easier prey. Smile
 

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Denial of Sentience in Animals - by Titus Rivas - 2017-09-01, 10:34 AM
RE: Denial of Sentience in Animals - by Brian - 2017-09-01, 08:56 PM
RE: Denial of Sentience in Animals - by Laird - 2017-09-02, 08:50 AM
RE: Denial of Sentience in Animals - by Laird - 2017-09-05, 09:54 AM
RE: Denial of Sentience in Animals - by DaveB - 2017-09-13, 11:03 PM
RE: Denial of Sentience in Animals - by Pollux - 2017-09-13, 11:35 PM
RE: Denial of Sentience in Animals - by Steve001 - 2017-09-19, 10:50 PM
RE: Denial of Sentience in Animals - by Max_B - 2017-09-15, 10:34 PM
RE: Denial of Sentience in Animals - by Pssst - 2017-09-22, 07:39 PM
RE: Denial of Sentience in Animals - by Brian - 2017-09-23, 11:53 AM
RE: Denial of Sentience in Animals - by Typoz - 2017-09-23, 12:09 PM
RE: Denial of Sentience in Animals - by Brian - 2017-09-21, 12:01 PM
RE: Denial of Sentience in Animals - by Brian - 2017-09-21, 07:06 PM
RE: Denial of Sentience in Animals - by Pollux - 2017-09-15, 07:18 PM
RE: Denial of Sentience in Animals - by Brian - 2017-09-15, 07:23 PM
RE: Denial of Sentience in Animals - by Steve001 - 2017-09-19, 10:45 PM
RE: Denial of Sentience in Animals - by Steve001 - 2017-09-19, 11:34 PM
RE: Denial of Sentience in Animals - by Jim_Smith - 2017-09-21, 12:18 PM
RE: Denial of Sentience in Animals - by Jim_Smith - 2017-09-24, 01:39 AM

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