I remember on a forum (completely unrelated to those discussions but with off-topic threads allowed) A discussion about the Hard Problem of Consciousness happened.
In the middle, someone (not necessarily a proponent) suggested that Orch-OR could be a new solution.
The answers were exactly what you would think of pseudo-skeptics, with extraordinary claims about it being "falsified in multiple experiments like creationism" yet only mentioning Tegmark's opinion on it. "Brain doesn't have the condition for quantum phenomena" "Penrose is saying this nonsense because he hates AI" and the classic "woo" term.
The individual mentioned quantum processes in nature, and they responded that it "everything has quantum processes, but it's clear that consciousness doesn't need it, and one I found particularly funny:
"Geometric solar systems have evidence too, do you believe in it?"
Not defending or arguing against it, but I found it amusing.
The tone was similar to a article I read about it, but the article was far less rude, and while the accusations of woo and arguments about "advancements in discovering the mechanisms of subjetive experiences using classical systems" were present, the arrogance was not as strong, not discarding the possibility that someday all mental states and subjetive experiences could be explained by QM.
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In the middle, someone (not necessarily a proponent) suggested that Orch-OR could be a new solution.
The answers were exactly what you would think of pseudo-skeptics, with extraordinary claims about it being "falsified in multiple experiments like creationism" yet only mentioning Tegmark's opinion on it. "Brain doesn't have the condition for quantum phenomena" "Penrose is saying this nonsense because he hates AI" and the classic "woo" term.
The individual mentioned quantum processes in nature, and they responded that it "everything has quantum processes, but it's clear that consciousness doesn't need it, and one I found particularly funny:
"Geometric solar systems have evidence too, do you believe in it?"
Not defending or arguing against it, but I found it amusing.
The tone was similar to a article I read about it, but the article was far less rude, and while the accusations of woo and arguments about "advancements in discovering the mechanisms of subjetive experiences using classical systems" were present, the arrogance was not as strong, not discarding the possibility that someday all mental states and subjetive experiences could be explained by QM.