2024-03-11, 02:03 AM
(2024-03-11, 01:02 AM)nbtruthman Wrote: [ -> ]Severe emotional blockage? How about really having to even indirectly deal personally with a sampling of the real life injustices and cruelties of physical life that I have generically been referring to?
What I mean is that your pain, the strength of your emotions, clouds being able to perceive clearly the nature between soul and incarnation. It causes you to perceive the soul as some distant, cold, even uncaring entity, even when this is not the case whatsoever. We are portions of soul that go through experiences because a whole soul simply cannot incarnate within such a limited form.
(2024-03-11, 01:02 AM)nbtruthman Wrote: [ -> ]All this seems particularly ineffectual when I consider the problem I am soon going to confront when I visit a relative who has been suffering constant growing pain throughout his body since starting back in November or so, now finally diagnosed as a relentlessly spreading aggressive malignant cancer. I will impotently personally witness a gritty real life example of the grueling intolerable injustice inflicted on so many humans.
Yes, the injustice is real on this level. That's how it has to be experienced, so it is. I've experienced and witnessed many injustices myself, and it's difficult to remind myself that there is a bigger picture that I'm not aware of. All I am able to do is accept that there is a greater context I am not aware of to all of this. The incarnate mind cannot comprehend soul-level knowledge, so I must content myself with what I am able to know. Past-life knowledge is feasible, at least, but it's only a partial picture.
(2024-03-11, 01:02 AM)nbtruthman Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think any words on my part or on your part for that matter are going to be able to assuage his acute physical and emotional suffering happening right now in real time. He does not understand these concepts and wouldn't believe them even if I tried to explain them. How to really reach him? What he most needs right now is something to at least dull the pain, when Percodan and other narcotic opiate drugs offer little relief.
We're not here to understand the soul ~ we're here to have experiences, whatever they may be, for whatever purpose the soul decided before it incarnated. Only the soul understands the reasons for why it chose to put itself through hell. The soul is not some distant, heartless entity. His soul experiences everything he goes through, and he will only fully understand once he leaves his physical form behind, and expands back into full soul. Only then will the full context be able to be comprehended.
(2024-03-11, 01:02 AM)nbtruthman Wrote: [ -> ]It's ridiculous to try to tell this person that during his between lives period he as his soul accepted the high probability of (or even deliberately planned and brought on) this terrible outcome of his life. I know better - it would be cruel and probably would only elicit great and justified anger at my effrontery in giving him what to him is so much New Age-seeming poppycock. As far as I can tell he is not and never has been conscious of his soul (or even less, as being part of his soul), and would scoff at these ideas.
We're not here to be aware of our soul or what our soul chose. But the soul is, again, not some separate entity putting another entity through cruel, thoughtless pain ~ the incarnation is fully experienced by the soul, the soul only being able to come to certain understandings via the veil of forgetfulness. So it appears from the incarnations perspective to be suffering for no reason. The soul has that exact same perception, because it is the incarnation. The soul has the additional knowledge of knowing that despite the seemingly endless torment, it will at least be temporary. The incarnation can only understand after the life is finished. That is simply how it goes, unfortunately.
When I was blinded by the pain and suffering of my trauma, depression and anxiety, I simply couldn't understand why I would choose such a life... precisely because I was blinded by the pain and suffering. It prevents understanding, because the pain is consuming. Only once you are past the pain, able to see beyond it, able to look back at it without the pain blinding you, can you comprehend what it has taught you, if anything.
The lessons come out of the experience, not the other way around. And so very often only after the pain has been actually healed.
(2024-03-11, 01:02 AM)nbtruthman Wrote: [ -> ]Your words seem to me to embody much wisdom, but they still fail miserably in actually dealing with nitty gritty physical reality as it can be sometimes.
No, they just come from a place of intuition, of finally having a clear perspective of what my soul feels, and why my life was the way it was. With clarity, comes an understanding of the previously crippling pain. But that doesn't mean I have all of the answers... I have some answers that finally put my experiences into context.
The point being that while we're in the darkness, we cannot see... so it appears to be pointless.