2024-02-19, 12:39 AM
(2024-02-18, 05:22 PM)nbtruthman Wrote: [ -> ]The "veil of forgetfulness" would seem to prevent learning by the human, not enable growth, since for the human there is little or no accumulation of wisdom painfully acquired in past incarnations. Wisdom requires having the accumulated collective partial memory of a large array of past experiences, good and bad so as to know from experience what is good and works, and what is bad and doesn't work.
After contemplating my previous experiences... I think the veil of forgetfulness extends to memories that were formed in the higher, non-physical realms of existence. Because we do accumulate wisdom painfully acquired from past incarnation ~ we just often don't perceive the roots of that wisdom when we bring it into this life. It's not just wisdom... but any strong talents, fears or connections we might have. Such as... a child prodigy being able to play the piano without having been taught, or someone who has an irrational fear of the ocean, despite never having been there before in this lifetime, or having a curious knowing-at-first-sight, as if you know this person somehow, but you can't place the feeling. These are all past-life memories.
(2024-02-18, 05:22 PM)nbtruthman Wrote: [ -> ]But each current human incarnation has to mostly learn the same lessons all over again. Such a system would seem to be extremely inefficient and unfair to the human, but can be understood if as you imply, it is the Soul that does the learning, a mostly different and vastly greater being (essentially another distinct being) that has total recall of all the previous incarnations, and has all the time in the worlds to achieve greater wisdom (so it doesn't care about inefficiency).
But we don't have to learn the same lessons again, because the incarnate self is not a blank slate ~ as the Soul grows in experience, each incarnation will carry different sets of unconscious memories with them. I've come to suspect that the Soul can choose what set of past-life unconscious influences it will give to the incarnate self so that it can be influenced by those, for whatever purpose they are to serve in the upcoming life.
The human self is a portion of Soul, don't forget... so the whole Soul learns in real-time from the incarnate portion of Soul. There's no inefficiency ~ just working within the limitations of the system it has to work with. So, the Soul needs to get creative.
(2024-02-18, 05:22 PM)nbtruthman Wrote: [ -> ]So in this model the Soul, unlike the human, can truly learn from past mistakes and successes. Unfortunately this scheme is profoundly unfair to the human due to the human not being his soul in any humanly meaningful way - which is mainly due to the no memory of past lives issue and to the lack of participation in future life planning issue. But what is, is, and we have to accept it. It was established by powers vastly greater than our own.
You almost seem to consider the human an entirely different existence to the Soul, almost as if the Soul is something alien. The human can learn from past mistakes and successes. The human incarnation is the Soul ~ in part. It carries the potential the whole Soul considers necessary for the lessons to be learned in that lifetime.
Every major outcome the human incarnate makes can most certainly affect the Soul's decision making. The Soul isn't a distant entity. It actively watches, and can see every little detail, even those that the incarnate self is unable to.
When the human incarnation's body dies, that portion of Soul expands until it becomes one with the whole Soul again ~ as if it was never parted. Because it never was, in a sense. Souls can be influenced quite a bit by their incarnation's experiences.