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Profound NDEs and belief in survival 2018-05-26, 10:03 PM 5
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Profound NDEs and belief in survival Extended Consciousness Phenomena
Near-Death Experiences (NDEs)
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Hi everyone! I'm doing research for an article I'm thinking about putting together and publishing, and I'm wondering whether this community could please help me with a few questions. Has there ever been any exceptions to profound NDEs in terms of them seemingly always coming back certain of or at least believing in survival? Or is this something that always happen as far as we know? If there are exceptions, does anyone have any statistics on how often this exception occurs? With profound NDE I mean someone who has scored at least 23-24 on the NDE Scale (https://iands.org/research/nde-research/important-research-articles/698-greyson-nde-scale.html) according to this definition (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236460336_Near-Death_Experiences_and_Spiritual_Well-Being). According to this official definition, if you have less than 7 on the NDE Scale then you don't have an NDE for research purposes, and if you have 7-14 on the NDE Scale then you have a subtle NDE, 15-23 is a deep NDE, and 23-32 is a profound NDE. I've contacted a few NDE researchers, and they seem to agree that they at least have never encountered a person with a profound NDE who didn't at least believe in survival after their experience. But do you know of any positive sources for this claim? That there are many people with subtle NDEs who do not believe in survival afterward is not in dispute, and that the NDE aftereffect of belief in survival is strongly correlated with the depth of the NDE is already well-established in the literature. I'm just wondering whether there are any known exceptions of profound NDEs to this rule, or if there is any data to strongly support that this is the case. Or are there just books that compile a lot of the most impressive NDEs, like Kevin William's and Jody Long's books? In these books, for instance, there seem to be no exceptions either. Any help would be much appreciated!

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