"Why I am no longer a skeptic"

I'm not sure how these results are supposed to be psi-like. How would they be connected to reincarnation, for example?

As far as I know, no one has suggested they are connected to reincarnation.

I must say I find your question very surprising. Do you know anything at all about the Global Consciousness Project?

My point is that no one has been able to suggest, even in general terms, how the departure of the RNGs from ideal behaviour could produce correlations between the outputs of two different devices - and still less why this should be observed only during periods of global events (which, we're told, were defined before anyone examined the data).

As I said, most people are probably not very interested... because there are so many ways such an effect could be observed. Deal with the concerns, tighten up the experiment substantially (which is easy to do)... and they might get more interest.

It was in response to Chris's post.

That doesn't answer my question or have much to do with anything. You had specific concerns about Radin's experiments, Radin told you he controlled for your concerns, why still claim his experiments are 'junk'? Extremely disingenuous and makes clear your concerns are not genuine. And you responded to my post...

My point is that no one has been able to suggest, even in general terms, how the departure of the RNGs from ideal behaviour could produce correlations between the outputs of two different devices - and still less why this should be observed only during periods of global events (which, we're told, were defined before anyone examined the data).

No one has suggested a reason why because they can't, to some people psi is impossible and all these results must be down to something other then an anomalous transfer of information, the mind affecting anything physical etc. It's the extreme nature of some people's statements about Parapsychology, or outright lying/misleading statements (I've called FLS out on this before in terms of misrepresenting the views of two people I know personally) that's helped pushed me to being a psi proponent.

That doesn't answer my question or have much to do with anything. You had specific concerns about Radin's experiments, Radin told you he controlled for your concerns, why still claim his experiments are 'junk'? Extremely disingenuous and makes clear your concerns are not genuine. And you responded to my post...

Oh, for exactly the reasons I've already stated elsewhere... were you under the assumption that Radin had satisfied my concerns? Then I can set you straight... he didn't.

Oh, for exactly the reasons I've already stated elsewhere... were you under the assumption that Radin had satisfied my concerns? Then I can set you straight... he didn't.

That's your personal issue then, not his. For example you in desperation claimed that meditators did better then non meditators because of chanting, Radin told you they weren't allowed to chant or make noise - was that not satisfying enough for you? 
I have a lot of time for reasonable, constructive criticisms of Parapsychology, not false claims of research being 'junk'. You also seem to think that your personal concerns are very important - why should they be?

As I said, most people are probably not very interested... because there are so many ways such an effect could be observed.

It's fair enough if you're not interested.

But otherwise, if you're claiming the effect can be produced by normal means, you need to explain how. I have never seen anyone explain how.

It's fair enough if you're not interested.

But otherwise, if you're claiming the effect can be produced by normal means, you need to explain how. I have never seen anyone explain how.

But the results are produced by normal means...? Unless you're saying they are not, and then you need  to explain how?

But the results are produced by normal means...? Unless you're saying they are not, and then you need  to explain how?

By "normal", I mean "non-psi".

That's your personal issue then, not his. For example you in desperation claimed that meditators did better then non meditators because of chanting, Radin told you they weren't allowed to chant or make noise - was that not satisfying enough for you? 
I have a lot of time for reasonable, constructive criticisms of Parapsychology, not false claims of research being 'junk'. You also seem to think that your personal concerns are very important - why should they be?

If your claiming a non-physical effect, or a new force... you got to remove all known sources of physical effects.. and control the experiment properly. Radin doesn't do that. I gave you an example of how I would expect to see a really good experiment run which is investigating an anomalous behavioral effect, for which we have no satisfactory mechanism. I like Sheldrakes Jaytee experiments too. It's not like a don't believe there is something new we need to understand going on behind these commonly reported anomalous phenomena... I just don't think Radin is demonstrating the effects he suggests might be responsible for his results, and further, one has to question whether he is aware of this himself. People are entitled to their own opinion you know Roberta, even if you don't like it.