What is the point to be alive?

When an NDE is encountered after a suicide attempt, they don't try again, do they.

You’re right.

Actually...there is one that I’ve posted here, but it’s not what most people would think. Wayne Morrison searched desperately for a razor so that he could return to the amazing place he’d just experienced! 

He did in fact find one, but then he heard a voice in his head say ‘NO’ in an authoritative manner, and at the same time the bathroom door opened and someone said “he’s in here” causing him to drop the razor.

But that was spur of the moment stuff, I’m sure he wouldn’t condone his own behaviour, though he could explain why he did it.

You’re right.

Actually...there is one that I’ve posted here, but it’s not what most people would think. Wayne Morrison searched desperately for a razor so that he could return to the amazing place he’d just experienced! 

He did in fact find one, but then he heard a voice in his head say ‘NO’ in an authoritative manner, and at the same time the bathroom door opened and someone said “he’s in here” causing him to drop the razor.

But that was spur of the moment stuff, I’m sure he wouldn’t condone his own behaviour, though he could explain why he did it.

Just to add, two of Peter Fenwick's patient's wanted to do away with themselves after NDE's. One was a bloke who sat in a chair all day saying he wanted to die and the other was a young woman who kept trying to strangle herself with a ligature.

So my first statement was a bit hasty, I suppose. Bruce Greyson seems to think that most of them don't try again.

https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-stud...1_nde4.pdf

When an NDE is encountered after a suicide attempt, they don't try again, do they.

The majority of people who attempt suicide and do not succeed do not attempt again in their lifetimes. This is well documented in suicidality literature.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matte.../survival/

[Laird]

https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-stud...1_nde4.pdf

Thanks for that, tim. It would be interesting to know whether any of the follow-up research that they suggested in that paper got carried out. Incidentally, what was with the sentence which continued from the first page (numbered 10) to the second page? I couldn't follow it after the page break. Nor the one following it.

[Laird]

Nevermind, I figured it out. The first line of the page, "clinical studies of NDEs published to date suggest a marked decrease", has somehow been misplaced - it should be the third line, i.e., it should be moved and inserted after "However, the few".

Nevermind, I figured it out. The first line of the page, "clinical studies of NDEs published to date suggest a marked decrease", has somehow been misplaced - it should be the third line, i.e., it should be moved and inserted after "However, the few".

Yeah, the lines have moved. How can that happen, don't know.

Thanks for that, tim. It would be interesting to know whether any of the follow-up research that they suggested in that paper got carried out. Incidentally, what was with the sentence which continued from the first page (numbered 10) to the second page? I couldn't follow it after the page break. Nor the one following it.

It's a very complicated emotive subject, isn't it. This Greyson JNDS paper is 10 years after that one (which was 1981)

https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-stud.../NDE19.pdf