Twin Peaks Thread - S1&2 + Return + Fire Walk With Me

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(2017-09-28, 08:46 AM)Kamarling Wrote: Loose ends and questions (having just watched the final episode):

1. Where did Dianne go?

2. Did Cooper and Dianne slip into another reality at the electricity pylons?

3. Was there a reality in which Laura died and another in which she didn't?

4. Was the lady with the bug in her mouth Sarah?

5. Did the atom bomb open a portal to another dimension or parallel world?

6. Is bad Cooper waiting in the red room or is he done?

7. Do all Americans think that Englishmen come in two stereotypes: aristocrats and cockneys?

Those are good questions. I have some answers to some of them, but of course they are my opinion only.

As for 7, the guy who played Freddie was a YouTuber that Lynch contacted before the show, saying he might have a place for him in future projects, and then eventually cast him in TP. Lynch does that a lot though -- a person catches his eye for whatever reason and then later uses him or her in his projects. He cast Naomi Watts in Mullholland Drive based on her headshot for casting, and when she asked him later why he picked her, he said, "I don't know! I just liked the look in your eye!" (Going off memory here on quotes...)

I'm guessing he goes off his intuition and aesthetic choices for his own reasons.

Oh, on edit -- I will reply as best as I can later as I have to go to bed. I did reply to Chris about some of this earlier in the thread.
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Don't get me wrong though ... David Lynch can do no wrong for me. The cockney comment was more of a general observation.
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(2017-09-28, 09:54 AM)Kamarling Wrote: Don't get me wrong though ... David Lynch can do no wrong for me. The cockney comment was more of a general observation.

I kept thinking I would do a rewatch of the show, but the DVDs are coming out in early December. I think I will binge-watch them then and (hopefully?) have more insight into what Lynch is saying. I mean, the only thing I really get him saying is that this reality is a dream.

And, yeah, he can't really do much wrong by me either. He's one of my favorite directors, even when he's completely frustrating! I KNEW he was going to conclude the series with no answers and new questions, and I tried to warn family and friends about that, haha.

I've yet to hear back from my brother who emailed me about what I thought of the series finale. Tongue
There's one small point that puzzles me (as well as all the large points). Why is the character known as the Giant in the original series called the Fireman in the revival? It seems as though the name has some significance, as in earlier episodes the cast list called him ???????. Or was that just Lynch teasing the audience?

Is he the kind of fireman who puts fires out or the kind that keeps them going?
(2017-10-02, 10:13 AM)Chris Wrote: There's one small point that puzzles me (as well as all the large points). Why is the character known as the Giant in the original series called the Fireman in the revival? It seems as though the name has some significance, as in earlier episodes the cast list called him ???????. Or was that just Lynch teasing the audience?

Is he the kind of fireman who puts fires out or the kind that keeps them going?

I thought the Fireman referred to the type who keeps fires going, like for engines, boilers, etc. That made more sense to me than the one who puts out fires, and I thought this was more or less confirmed when Dale Cooper's old Great Northern key literally opened the door in the boiler room, where that tonal sound seemed to emanate from.

I suppose the ??????? was a bit of a tease because Lynch did not yet want the audience to know his name, which points to it being significant.
(2017-10-03, 05:27 AM)Doppelgänger Wrote: I thought the Fireman referred to the type who keeps fires going, like for engines, boilers, etc. That made more sense to me than the one who puts out fires, and I thought this was more or less confirmed when Dale Cooper's old Great Northern key literally opened the door in the boiler room, where that tonal sound seemed to emanate from.

I suppose the ??????? was a bit of a tease because Lynch did not yet want the audience to know his name, which points to it being significant.

Thanks. So is the fire he keeps going the same one as in "Fire, Walk With Me"? I never understood what that meant, either, but I assumed it wasn't a good fire.
(2017-10-03, 08:05 AM)Chris Wrote: Thanks. So is the fire he keeps going the same one as in "Fire, Walk With Me"? I never understood what that meant, either, but I assumed it wasn't a good fire.

I sometimes dislike this kind of questioning because I am certainly not an expert on the series or Frost's and Lynch's minds, and I definitely don't want to come off as though I am. They leave a lot open to interpretation. I don't mind the questions, to be clear -- I love speculating -- but I don't want to seem like I'm dictating to someone else my OWN interpretation. I hope that makes sense.

Anyway, here is the poem from the original run/show (by MIKE /Philip Gerard/"the one-armed man"):

Through the darkness of future past 

The magician longs to see. 

One chants out between two worlds 

Fire walk with me.

I don’t get the sense that the Fireman is out there trying to stamp out “fires.” It’s more like he is trying to “drive” or move things along, not run around putting out “fires.”

For what the poem means, that’s up to interpretation, though to me it definitely references esoteric material, especially when in the old run they talked about "the dweller on the threshold."

On edit: Sorry, I think I worded the above badly. I don't mind questions. I just don't want to come off as "Well obviously Lynch meant [this] or [that]" when discussing this show, as though I'm some sort of self-styled Lynch expert (lol).

I suppose I'd like more of a dialogue, though, then just asking or answering questions.

What do you think, Chris, what all this means, eh? Wink
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(2017-09-28, 09:54 AM)Kamarling Wrote: Don't get me wrong though ... David Lynch can do no wrong for me. The cockney comment was more of a general observation.

I remembered last night something that Lynch did, though I wouldn't classify it as wronging me -- but what in the world was The Rabbits webseries about??? My SO and I only watched three episodes and then my SO was OUT. I would like to watch them all, but watching them alone is... not fun. I need someone to debate, discuss, argue and dissect with me about the meaning and narrative, haha. But SO is having none of it. Maybe I will revisit Rabbits in the future.
(2017-10-03, 08:25 AM)Doppelgänger Wrote: I sometimes dislike this kind of questioning because I am certainly not an expert on the series or Frost's and Lynch's minds, and I definitely don't want to come off as though I am. They leave a lot open to interpretation. I don't mind the questions, to be clear -- I love speculating -- but I don't want to seem like I'm dictating to someone else my OWN interpretation. I hope that makes sense.

Anyway, here is the poem from the original run/show (by MIKE /Philip Gerard/"the one-armed man"):

Through the darkness of future past 

The magician longs to see. 

One chants out between two worlds 

Fire walk with me.

I don’t get the sense that the Fireman is out there trying to stamp out “fires.” It’s more like he is trying to “drive” or move things along, not run around putting out “fires.”

For what the poem means, that’s up to interpretation, though to me it definitely references esoteric material, especially when in the old run they talked about "the dweller on the threshold."

On edit: Sorry, I think I worded the above badly. I don't mind questions. I just don't want to come off as "Well obviously Lynch meant [this] or [that]" when discussing this show, as though I'm some sort of self-styled Lynch expert (lol).

I suppose I'd like more of a dialogue, though, then just asking or answering questions.

What do you think, Chris, what all this means, eh? Wink

Sorry if that came across as an interrogation. But you have obviously watched the series more closely than I did - I rather let it wash over me, and let some alcohol wash over me at the same time, which doesn't help with attention to, or retention of, detail.

I'm afraid I mostly just find it mystifying, except in the broadest terms.
(2017-10-03, 09:02 AM)Chris Wrote: Sorry if that came across as an interrogation. But you have obviously watched the series more closely than I did - I rather let it wash over me, and let some alcohol wash over me at the same time, which doesn't help with attention to, or retention of, detail.

I'm afraid I mostly just find it mystifying, except in the broadest terms.

No, I didn't think it was an interrogation. But, haha, I get where you are coming from.

I do admit that there was some consumption of alcohol for the series finale because the next day was (an American) holiday, so no having to take the kids to school early in the morn or going to work, yay!

I also did a rewatch of the original show and Fire Walk with Me before and during the new series, so yeah, it was all fresh in my mind.


I would be interested, though, in yours or others' thoughts on the series/finale/etc and how you perceived or felt about it.

Cheers!
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