Physical mediumship: apports through the mouth

Or to whom I am now speaking.  Is your owner missing a sock?

WTF? Are you Harry Potter?

Brian the Free Elf

One trance physical medium who usually brings apports through the mouth. Is this a legit practice, or is it considered more or only legitimate if the apports are not coming through the physical medium's body?

And ears and eyes and noses and dropped from above (this can hurt) and vaginas and poo-poo holes. Got an orifice, you have an apport portal.

I just started a thread about physical mediumship and fraud here, if any proponents or skeptics want to debate it:

http://psiencequest.net/forums/thread-234.html

Would you be willing to share how one might witness this themselves? Perhaps w/o traveling thousands of miles? Haven't had much luck finding anything that looks reputable on www. 

Apportation? I don't know where you are located but Muegge travels his area (Germ, Austria, etc.) and we are bringing him back to USA, Caylor travels extensively UK, USA, etc. Alexander stays in the UK, Shane travels extensively. Most of these will require that you have a voucher from an existing sitter before entry is gained.

Lists of people who will NEVER be allowed into a PM session and those lists are shared for years now. Most banned individuals are collected off Internet posts.


- Are the stones and other objects metallurgically and chemically indistinguishable from "actual" stones and coins etc?

Yes and many are very glasslike. 

- Are the gem stones cut?

Most have a rough cut look n feel to them. Some are precisely faceted. The coins range from shiny new (reproductions?) to aged and scarred.

- Are all those small roundish objects, gemstones or something else? 

Most are gemstone quality, yes. It isn't nice to steal. lol Although I have had spirit place apports in my home which I find when I return. They don't have my correct address - no one does - and all I gave spirit was my zipcode.

- Are the coins from particular time periods (as evidence by the mint date or by their construction)?

Roman, Greek, American, francs, paper currency, yen, antique, ancient, current.

- Do the coins show wear,, ie: as if they'd been used?

Yes.

- These demonstrations seem to be done in full light and with relatively little limiting protocol. 

Many times the apportations occur over lunch, this is why Caylor rarely gets asked out. lol Ibiza a few years ago.





-Have they been carefully studied by anyone using strict scientific controls? If so, what were the results. Obviously I'm particularly interested in a protocol that could be established to eliminate fraud. Something like a real time fluoroscope that might image the area where the objects are materialized would be nearly indisputable I would say.

Stephen Braude and another researcher who we nicknamed The Wolf 

Braude and Muegge

...which I don't consider as valid because Braude later admitted he changed his paper due to it being inconsistent with The Wolf's 'findings' which were nothing more than conjecture about the PM phenomenon.

You're not going to get ANY PM practicing today to allow any type of "scientific study and control" and why should they? They don't care whether or not people outside of the sitters find PM believable as spirit-inspired communication. It's been done, Leslie Flint, still the greatest IDVoice medium I have ever seen, was studied to the point of hilarity and never was once found to be fraudulent. 

Lord knows I tried but after the Braude debacle, and the looooooong history of sceptic abuse of privileges, ain't happening. 

Btw, there are literally hundreds of PMs in the US alone, varying degrees of what would loosely be called 'expertise'. Hell, I can spin a table for that matter. 

Thanks for all the detail here. Very informative!

Footage of Kai Muegge where they're coming out of his every facial orifice:

So, my reaction to seeing something like this is - whatever's going on, I admire the guy for putting up with solid objects going over his eyeballs.

But there are people with the "talent" for drinking liquids, storing them up in their nasal passages, and then squirting them out of their eyes. People can contort the workings of their body into some rather incredible feats. So as impressive as it is that he can do this, under any circumstances, I would want to find a way to control for something like that.

So, my reaction to seeing something like this is - whatever's going on, I admire the guy for putting up with solid objects going over his eyeballs.

But there are people with the "talent" for drinking liquids, storing them up in their nasal passages, and then squirting them out of their eyes. People can contort the workings of their body into some rather incredible feats. So as impressive as it is that he can do this, under any circumstances, I would want to find a way to control for something like that.

The apport does not solidify from the eye socket until it is being ejected.

The apport does not solidify from the eye socket until it is being ejected.

Forgive me, but I can't discern that from the video posted here. In this video, the apport can be seen pushing up under his eyelid. I would still want stronger controls against the sort of tricks I described.

I know of no trick for expelling ingested material through the ear canal; those apports, I have no explanation for.

A rather long 'open letter' here that is worth reading ... more so the comments that follow. Once again, the introduction of trickery some of the time seems discordant.

If, as some have suggested, this is performance pressure, may I humbly suggest the framing of mediumship as a performance be reviewed. As should a ticket tariff that exceeds purely nominal compensation: it only encourages the more earthly lusts to rule the show.

Estelle Roberts has a story about apports.

from her book '50 years a medium'

during one of her seances , there were 50 people present, who each one received an apport.

the trumpet would go to each one and tap-tapped on the ground, then soon there was a rattling sound and the apport would shoot out.

there were all sorts of precious stones ,  one had a small cross hallmarked sterling silver
where do they come from , she asked ?

from ' the land of Anywhere' Red Cloud laughingly replied

Red Cloud said that nature spirits help him to produce the apports . the trouble is that once they have them in their possession , they are reluctant to let them go , and have to be cajoled .

they were of course not belonging to anyone - lost items , & a lot dredged up from the bottom of the sea around the world.


ps I posted this same above info on Spiritual forums a few years ago , So I just cut n pasted the above  as couldn't remember exact details