Neighbouring soul comes through a reading

[Ninshub]

The most annoying thing I've seen with Tyler's readings though is the sitters, some of whom say they're skeptical of all this, but as soon as he starts saying they'll start crying and they will reveal absolutely everything. So it's absolutely of 0 use as evidence, although of course I'm sure those most who watch his TV show aren't interested in or aware of all that.

This is an example of what I mean. She's a "Christian skeptic (of mediumship)" but as soon as he starts talking she fills out all the details before he has a chance to speak, and starts crying pretty easily. Ruins what could potentially be an evidential reading.

[Ninshub]

He also seems to be mixing in mediumship with psychic readings of the person, which muddies the waters, which Matt doesn't do 

Speaking of which that reminds me of a personal experience in a spirit message circle I attended. They were usually good, and mediums and psychics and shamans could be part of them. But once there was this visiting supposed medium from Scotland, who when it came to me seem to get frustrated and said in an almost accusatory tone "you're difficult to read", as if this was my problem. I could tell the main medium organizing the circle felt kind of bad for me.

Later I thought "Why the F are you trying to read me? Aren't you a medium, not a psychic?" Which I should have said, but that would spoiled the loving and joyful atmosphere!

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On the topic of some celebrity TV mediums mixing mediumship with psychic reading, I've heard James van Praaghe offer that criticism recently in a video interview. He possibly was thinking of Tyler Henry among others.

I've seen clips of Tyler....

Sci, I'd recommend you watch this video if you're interested at all in signing up and trying. It's an interesting interview. Personally what I come away with after seeing a lot of Matt Fraser (not on the TV show!) is that I would actually put my hand in the fire that he's not a fake, that he's completely genuine. That's where my level of trust and psychological sense is with him.

I've seen part of that interview but will watch the whole thing. You've gotten me into a deep dive of Tyler and Fraser heh. They both seem to be an important part of an emerging new spirituality, and it would be frustrating to see either revealed as frauds.

Tyler had one of his former teachers sit for a reading with three friends, and it was interesting. That a young gay white male had a deep connection to his female black teacher & credited her with preventing his suicide...it feels like we are seeing the power of Spirit to transcend boundaries. Also the story of how Tyler came up to her after class, knew the name of the deceased mother-in-law...seemed like very strong hits.

But we don't get anything so specific in the readings done in the modern day in that episode. I could see people believing it was all a combination of hot & cold reading, but then again the women who were read - there was a guy who didn't get any info - seemed to think there were details in there that could not be known by online research.

It's hard to know what to think. I will say the idea that mediums are "grief vampires", the pseudoskeptical term of mockery, doesn't really come off watching either. Both seem to offer a great deal of peace and healing, and if it's a lie I think after my father died I'd have wanted someone to lie to me in just this way...

Will write more later, will be watching that interview and more episodes of Tyler's Netflix show.

This is an example of what I mean. She's a "Christian skeptic (of mediumship)" but as soon as he starts talking she fills out all the details before he has a chance to speak, and starts crying pretty easily. Ruins what could potentially be an evidential reading.

There seemed to be some potential hits, but it's hard to say without knowing what these people put on social media.

Like was the miscarriage a secret that he could not possibly have known? It seemed like Melissa and Emily's mother didn't even know?

I'd love for Tyler to be the real deal but still sitting on the skeptic side of the fence. Ready to jump over, but still there heh...

I am sorry Ninshub, but I was instantly and viscerally repelled by Matt Fraser's video, and gave up after about a minute.

Maybe if what he said was written down and processed by an AI to remove the references to himself, I might find something there.

David

[Ninshub]

No need to be sorry!

[Ninshub]

 I could see people believing it was all a combination of hot & cold reading, but then again the women who were read - there was a guy who didn't get any info - seemed to think there were details in there that could not be known by online research.

Just watched this Matt Fraser video that popped up on my youtube "feed". Just looking at it, I find it hard to discern much traces of potential cold reading. It matches most of the videos I've seen of Fraser's, and the online group reading that I attended, where there were very few leading questions (or questions period) asked of the sitter. Matt just mostly just goes on (and on and on, some folks would say ).



Of course there is the possibility of organized hot reading. (But then again who would know that the guy just fixed a sink not long ago? I see enough of those details that I find it hard to believe they're all posted on social media).

Just watched this Matt Fraser video that popped up on my youtube "feed". Just looking at it, I find it hard to discern much traces of potential cold reading. It matches most of the videos I've seen of Fraser's, and the online group reading that I attended, where there were very few leading questions (or questions period) asked of the sitter. Matt just mostly just goes on (and on and on, some folks would say ).

Of course there is the possibility of organized hot reading. (But then again who would know that the guy just fixed a sink not long ago? I see enough of those details that I find it hard to believe they're all posted on social media).

I do think Fraser has better videos than Tyler Henry, which even to a proponent like myself seem suspiciously like mere hot/cold reading...

On Fraser going on & on...yeah I've watched some of the reality show and Matt is shown as a kind of a verbose man of vanity who likes nice things and creature comforts in addition to the sound of his own voice, and definitely not a spiritual figure in the traditional sense heh...For whatever reason this makes him more believable..
 
Nevertheless I think it's hard for me to accept someone can have so many good hits they can amass enough wealth to be a millionaire at 25 years old (quoting Fraser from his show)...but then there have been amazing "super stars" in the past who have demonstrated some incredible paranormal abilities...

[Ninshub]

I've looked through various reddit threads about Matt Fraser, legit or fraud type of thing. You have a lot of posts of people saying "I attended and it was crap" and others (more of them on balance I think) saying no it's the real thing. So I don't think in the end it's really possible to draw a firm conclusion apart from your own investigation and intuition.

Here's a negative one, for example.

No, I don’t believe he is (legit). I paid some money to be in a online show with him, and he was obviously reaching for straws. The people he called on sometimes had no idea who or what he was talking about, and he was super vague. When he did get a bite he would ramble on about the same one thing. I wasn’t impressed at all. It was a lot of cold reading.

(I wrote in my own account how that is totally opposite to my own experience, as well of the different videos I've seen, which are quite a few.)

These are some of the positives ones that add to my overall feeling that he's legit (of course I could be wrong).

I “attended” one of his online “live” readings and it was very real feeling and very emotional. It was very worth my $25 even though I was not selected- you could see the whole process the whole time- complete with janky video connections and all. He doesn’t ask as many leading questions as the YouTube snippets either- it was quite a surreal experience for me really. He is a very calming presence in general (for me at least). Watching people’s readings in real-time was amazing. YMMV. I would do it again, 100%, but I’m an empath and felt an emotional release after listening/seeing everyone’s experiences.

Just came here to say I received one of the live online readings on August 10, 2022. My childhood best friend who passed of a suicide/overdose came through and said things ONLY HE WOULDVE KNOWN. Also Matt talked about my coma and near death experience that nobody knew about… I am 100% sure he is the real deal.
I also had paid for 4 online readings before the one I was finally chosen in.. there are hundreds of people on there at a time so the chances are already low of getting a reading, but the $25 is definitely worth listening to everyone’s readings and hearing about the other side. I had also attended his reading in person in Fort Worth in June.
After not receiving a reading out of all of the online readings and finally the one in person, I was feeling a bit skeptical myself but something just kept pushing me to buy one more, & when I did he came through . I was the second reading that night…. You’re not supposed to record any of the readings but when he said my name, my fiancé started recording….
Anyway the things that were said are no where on line and things that nobody would ever know… even insiders between my best friend and I from 15 years ago… TRUST ME, that info can’t be found anywhere…
Now any time I see anyone wondering about Matt I just gotta tell them my whole experience… I remember feeling THIS SAME WAY, Until I finally got s reading..
If you have the extra money for a reading, I promise if you’re loved one has a message, they will come through! But you don’t need a medium to get those messages, you can tune in yourself!!

I attended a live event from him and got selected. He is 1000% real. My dad came forward and he stated things that only me or my family would know (e.g., that he used to sneak out of the hospital room to smoke a cigarette, that his high school sweetheart hooked up with a celebrity and more) He captured his entire personality and essence and knew specific details.

I can say that I had the fortunate opportunity to pay for a private reading with Matt a few years ago before he stopped doing private readings. It cost hundreds of dollars that I didn't really have to spend, but let me tell you, the reading changed my life forever!! He connected to my mother right away who had just passed away at the time. He knew things that he couldn't have possibly known or looked up, things that occurred in the hospital when I was in the room with her by myself. I encourage ANYONE who is a skeptic or interested in his ability to check him out. I would pay $1,000 if I could ever get another reading with him. Trust me when I say it was worth EVERY SINGLE PENNY!!!!

Some of the negatives were skeptical because they had trouble signing in and assuming it was fraud, or somehow couldn't hit the button that you hit once you're in to let Matt (and his team I gather) know you're willing to be chosen. They go into conspiracy mode over what that means.

I would have to scroll through all the threads to find a post I liked, where someone seemed to know about mediumship and said it's normal for someone to become famous or more well-known as a medium if they tend to be more accurate. (I wish I could find the exact wording because it made a lot of sense the way they phrased it). Of course this doesn't mean all celebrity mediums are legit (!!!). 

What I would caution is there's no certainty, even if you attend 5, 6 times, that you get "chosen" and there is something potentially dishonest, or not completely forthright, in saying "if a spirit didn't come through, just show up next time" because if there actually ARE 800 people attending every time or so, you could be waiting a long time. And then better maybe saving up some 300, 400 bucks or whatever to try to find a personal reading somewhere. But it's the thing of trying to find a medium you know who has a good reputation.

I've looked through various reddit threads about Matt Fraser, legit or fraud type of thing. You have a lot of posts of people saying "I attended and it was crap" and others (more of them on balance I think) saying no it's the real thing. So I don't think in the end it's really possible to draw a firm conclusion apart from your own investigation and intuition.

Here's a negative one, for example.

(I wrote in my own account how that is totally opposite to my own experience, as well of the different videos I've seen, which are quite a few.)

These are some of the positives ones that add to my overall feeling that he's legit (of course I could be wrong).

Some of the negatives were skeptical because they had trouble signing in and assuming it was fraud, or somehow couldn't hit the button that you hit once you're in to let Matt (and his team I gather) know you're willing to be chosen. They go into conspiracy mode over what that means.

I would have to scroll through all the threads to find a post I liked, where someone seemed to know about mediumship and said it's normal for someone to become famous or more well-known as a medium if they tend to be more accurate. (I wish I could find the exact wording because it made a lot of sense the way they phrased it). Of course this doesn't mean all celebrity mediums are legit (!!!). 

What I would caution is there's no certainty, even if you attend 5, 6 times, that you get "chosen" and there is something potentially dishonest, or not completely forthright, in saying "if a spirit didn't come through, just show up next time" because if there actually ARE 800 people attending every time or so, you could be waiting a long time. And then better maybe saving up some 300, 400 bucks or whatever to try to find a personal reading somewhere. But it's the thing of trying to find a medium you know who has a good reputation.

Reddit itself has so many frauds that I also don't know what to think from the negative or positive reviews. People have gone through some of the stories completely unrelated to the paranormal [in other Reddit subs] and noted details that don't add up. My friends and I jokingly refer to [Reddit] as a practice playground for fiction writers.

I actually wonder if pseudo-skeptics just post bad reviews of any medium...OTOH you could also argue that a medium's social media team is posting positive reviews...[All to say I think the videos you've kindly posted are more valuable!]

I do enjoy watching the readings of both Matt & Tyler. Currently I feel like the hits Matt gets are better, though there are a few cases where people say Tyler knew things that weren't posted anywhere.