My favourite philosopher discusses one of this forums favourite topics.
Oh my God, I hate all this.
My favourite philosopher discusses one of this forums favourite topics.
Oh my God, I hate all this.
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Hey Wooley!
Long time no speak, hope all is well with you - and all the other beautiful human beings on this forum, it's been a while! Somehow, I can't remember where exactly, I came across Iain McGilchrist's new book "The Matter with Things" in the early hours of last night/this morning, and I found the blurb so fascinating I did a quick youtube search.....and ended up watching a 90 min lecture in 1 sitting - to be honest I don't have too much of an interest in the scientific, philosophical side of things nowadays, but this was such a brilliant talk by a delightful speaker I was unable to stop watching it! The subject matter reminded me of this forum as I thought some may appreciate it, did a quick search........and you posted about Iain just yesterday - it just had to be you or the Super Sci(borg_Patel) didn't it? Anyway, I'll still post a link to the video I watched, I'll probably watch the one you linked at some point, cheers Stan......and the blurb for the book too. Take care Stan and all!: https://channelmcgilchrist.com/the-matter-with-things/ Quote:Is the world essentially inert and mechanical – nothing but a collection of things for us to use? (2021-10-01, 11:18 AM)manjit Wrote: it just had to be you or the Super Sci(borg_Patel) didn't it? Hi Manjit, always a pleasure to see your posts and hear your thoughts. When it comes to producing posts for this forum, I’m a mere fly on Sci’s windscreen, but I do somehow think Iain McGilchrist is a very important messenger. Here’s a bit I transcribed from one of his vids, possibly the one that you watched? I looked for one around an hour and a half long and this was it, I hadn’t listened to it before. It reinforces something I wrote here recently about my being sceptical of using the scientific method alone for getting ‘closer to truth’. “Very quickly, it's like, which, which…we talked about the portals or the, the, the, the entry points on reality. What about the powers so we will follow the longer term powers towards some truth about reality. Well I think everyone would agree that science is going to be one of them a very important one. And another is likely to be reason, I think most people would accept that, not everybody but most people will probably accept that intuition is another important way in which we arrive at certain understandings of truth. And I would argue the imagination too, is very important. I think actually that we misunderstand what is meant by imagination what is meant by science, what is meant by reason, but that’s another story. But when you look at them as they are most valuable again, each of them is required, they're not necessarily in conflict. And the best part of them is provided by the right hemisphere, not the left and this is true of science, and it's true of reason.I spent a lot of time rehearsing (researching?)how it was that scientists and mathematicians made their great discoveries and great leaps forward. And as has been recognised by a number of important 20th century scientists, they never or very rarely made their great advances by following the scientific method, by testing to exhaustion all sorts of possibilities. Instead, they saw something that…they saw a gestalt, a new form that answered something and it often came in a flash. It doesn't mean that they didn't have to do a lot of hard work before that flash would come, but he didn't come from the left hemispheres procedural plodding, it came from the right hemisphere and there is absolutely incontrovertible evidence that those aha moments of intuitive insight come from the right Superior Temporal sulcus.” (My bolding)
Oh my God, I hate all this.
(This post was last modified: 2021-10-02, 09:03 AM by Stan Woolley.)
That's all good stuff, though personally I take the term "right hemisphere" as a poetic or metaphorical use of language to represent certain things which I would connect with soul or spirit. My words too may be taken as metaphor, it is just my preferred way of viewing these things.
(2021-10-02, 09:54 AM)Typoz Wrote: That's all good stuff, though personally I take the term "right hemisphere" as a poetic or metaphorical use of language to represent certain things which I would connect with soul or spirit. My words too may be taken as metaphor, it is just my preferred way of viewing these things. I don’t think McGilchrist himself would disagree with this opinion. I think he’s just trying to pull the balance towards the centre. As I’ve just attempted to express on another thread, I think both sides of our brains (and many other things besides) are equally important, for without its opposing brother, neither could flourish.
Oh my God, I hate all this.
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