Hexagon of lights

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In my new age days, I became very interested in UFOs and my friend (Let's call him J)  and I had many experiences of strange lights and sounds but they were too vague to be identified as anything out of the ordinary.  The sound we heard mostly for example turned out to be the sound of trains running over the railway track, distorted by distance and wind.  One night however, we were walking along by the local stream and we both looked up at the same time to see a perfect hexagon of lights moving slowly at a low altitude in the same direction as us and making no sound at all.  Whenever I remember this, I always try to fit the experience to human aircraft but I simply can't.
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(2018-09-10, 10:38 AM)Brian Wrote: In my new age days, I became very interested in UFOs and my friend (Let's call him J)  and I had many experiences of strange lights and sounds but they were too vague to be identified as anything out of the ordinary.  The sound we heard mostly for example turned out to be the sound of trains running over the railway track, distorted by distance and wind.  One night however, we were walking along by the local stream and we both looked up at the same time to see a perfect hexagon of lights moving slowly at a low altitude in the same direction as us and making no sound at all.  Whenever I remember this, I always try to fit the experience to human aircraft but I simply can't.

You saw lights in a hexagonal shape. The experience is slightly remarkable but can't be debunked do to your superficial accounting.. The real question is why you attempt only to fit this into being a human made aircraft? It could have been some other human made thing. Perhaps they were Chinese lanterns tied together or maybe flares on parachutes. Who knows? I've seen strange lights in the sky several decades ago. I wonder what I saw, but what I don't do is speculation on what they might be. They forever will remain mystery lights in the sky.
(2019-04-15, 01:42 PM)Steve001 Wrote: You saw lights in a hexagonal shape. The experience is slightly remarkable but can't be debunked do to your superficial accounting.. The real question is why you attempt only to fit this into being a human made aircraft? It could have been some other human made thing. Perhaps they were Chinese lanterns tied together or maybe flares on parachutes. Who knows? I've seen strange lights in the sky several decades ago. I wonder what I saw, but what I don't do is speculation on what they might be. They forever will remain mystery lights in the sky.

I hadn't seen chinese lanterns until this millenia and I have no idea if they existed at that time, but recently it crossed my mind for - ooh - perhaps a thousandth of a second before I realized it was a silly idea.  The path this thing took was far too straight and the speed was too fast considering the relative absence of wind.  I tried only human aircraft because it was the only thing I could think of at the time.
(2019-04-16, 10:41 AM)Brian Wrote: I hadn't seen chinese lanterns until this millenia and I have no idea if they existed at that time, but recently it crossed my mind for - ooh - perhaps a thousandth of a second before I realized it was a silly idea.  The path this thing took was far too straight and the speed was too fast considering the relative absence of wind.  I tried only human aircraft because it was the only thing I could think of at the time.

Just a reminder to include as many details as you can remember when recounting which you didn't do in the opening post.  Still a mystery.
One of the difficulties in this account is the reference to "low altitude". Generally we judge distance in two ways. At close range, the parallax effect between the image from each of our two eyes gives us a fairly precise way of estimating the distance. Beyond a certain range, the images from both eyes tends to be pretty much the same, so we use other methods.

The obvious one is the change in size with distance, a nearby object such as a car or a plane looks much larger than a distant car or plane. But this depends on us identifying the object and having existing knowledge of its actual size. In the case of an unknown object, these two factors, size and distance are interrelated, if we know the distance, we can estimate the size; if we know the size we can estimate the distance. But if we are not certain of either, then options remain wide open.

There is one further method of judging distance, the haze or mistiness of the atmosphere means a more distant object will appear paler and less clearly defined. But on a clear day, we can look at an object such as the moon, see it clearly with no haze, and again have no idea of distance. In any case we would need to know the characteristics of both the atmosphere and the unknown object itself.

From the given information I'd conclude that we cannot determine the size, altitude or speed of the object at all. A great many unknowns.
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If it wasn't low altitude then it was absurdly huge!  It was a very clear and precise hexagon and having 3D vision is always a useful thing.  If you had seen it yourself, you would have judged the same.  The trouble with trying to pass on information about an experience is that experience itself has too many subtleties which are difficult to describe.  It's like trying to describe the colour blue to somebody who was born blind.  I could tell the rough altitude and therefore the approximate speed.  There was no haze, it was a clear night.  The shape of the object cannot be determined by the shape of the lights but I can't figure a hexagon of lights in any aircraft I know of.  That would be a good starting point, then if we can find something that fits, the question remains as to why we couldn't hear anything.
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