Dallas Officer Describes Spiritual Brush With Afterlife

Life-changing brief NDE

From NHNE Near-Death Experience Network: Dallas Officer Describes Spiritual Brush With Afterlife

Original newspaper account at https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/...jOIEcKbqfc .

Just one more of a great host.

His injuries were severe. Lujan suffered a traumatic head wound, where you could actually see his skull. He had a lacerated tongue, broken neck and back, broken ribs, broken sternum, shattered hips, ankles and legs.
As he lay on the pavement he knew he was dying.
"I felt the euphoria of my life and soul leaving my body," he said. "So it wasn't a feeling of sadness or joy. It was more like tranquility. So I knew what was going on. I'm dying."
He doesn't remember being hit by the vehicle but woke up face down on the pavement.
Lujan says he looked over to the side of the road and saw his father standing over him. His dad died eight years ago.
"He's looking down at me and he says, 'Son, get up,'" he said. "And I said, 'Dad, I can't get up.' And then I will never forget this, he puts his hands on his knees and he bends down towards me and he's looking down at my eye and he says, 'Son, you have to get up because you have a family that loves you and needs you.'"
Lujan says he felt a sense of peace and says standing next to his father he saw God.
"God stood right next to my dad and I knew at that moment he was in heaven," he said. "I took a deep breath there and I felt my life and soul re-enter my body and I remember waking up in the arms of the fire fighters on the way to Parkland."
While in the ambulance he could hear paramedics talking about his condition.
"And I thought, 'Oh my God, I'm going to die in an ambulance. It's like I am dying and there is nothing I can do,'" he said.
He said as he was being wheeled into Parkland Hospital he asked for a priest.
"I said, 'Father, the last thing I want to do before I pass away is I want to forgive the person who did this to me,'" Lujan said.
He says the experience changed his life.

interesting, transformative NDEs seem to be rather common.

Sadly, this experience lacks both some form of verifiable OBE or ECG/EEG monitoring, making it easily dismissid as either a hallucination or a dream-like state.

interesting, transformative NDEs seem to be rather common.

Sadly, this experience lacks both some form of verifiable OBE or ECG/EEG monitoring, making it easily dismissid as either a hallucination or a dream-like state.

Unfortunately, you're right, but I didn't really post this for the closed-minded Skeptics. Knowing there are hundreds of independently investigated veridical NDEs having some of these features, it seems more likely than not that this NDE also was a real experience.

Unfortunately, you're right, but I didn't really post this for the closed-minded Skeptics. Knowing there are hundreds of independently investigated veridical NDEs having some of these features, it seems more likely than not that this NDE also was a real experience.

Sure thing, I thing this NDE as interesting as others with verifiable components.

I'd say we need to look at all the NDEs - the spiritually transformative ones as well as the veridical-content ones together as a whole. While there are some NDE accounts which I personally would mistrust, the overall picture, certainly in Western NDEs is fairly coherent, it forms some sort of consistent whole.

I don't particularly get excited when people use terms like God or Jesus in describing their experiences, these just seem the most natural language to that person. But the concept, the experience can be understood regardless of the labelling. And the veridical accounts are important since they give some sort of firm anchoring points, to help pin things down.

I think the simple veridical accounts on their own can only take us so far - for example they can provide confirmation of the independent existence of consciousness apart from the physical. But that on its own is for some a step too far, for others only a tiny step and not far enough. Add in the more spiritual experiences to that and things are enriched. It is the difference between sailing a small boat just off shore and keeping within sight of land, and sailing across the ocean to discover new continents. Those first reports of new lands and peoples may have seemed fanciful or delusional to some. But that only meant further voyages were necessary.

I'd say we need to look at all the NDEs - the spiritually transformative ones as well as the veridical-content ones together as a whole. While there are some NDE accounts which I personally would mistrust, the overall picture, certainly in Western NDEs is fairly coherent, it forms some sort of consistent whole.

I don't particularly get excited when people use terms like God or Jesus in describing their experiences, these just seem the most natural language to that person. But the concept, the experience can be understood regardless of the labelling. And the veridical accounts are important since they give some sort of firm anchoring points, to help pin things down.

I think the simple veridical accounts on their own can only take us so far - for example they can provide confirmation of the independent existence of consciousness apart from the physical. But that on its own is for some a step too far, for others only a tiny step and not far enough. Add in the more spiritual experiences to that and things are enriched. It is the difference between sailing a small boat just off shore and keeping within sight of land, and sailing across the ocean to discover new continents. Those first reports of new lands and peoples may have seemed fanciful or delusional to some. But that only meant further voyages were necessary.

I agree.

One interesting thing is that, while I sometimes cringe a bit when words such as "jesus" are used during NDEs tales, it is probably also a way of "wrapping up" the story. The feelings evoked, and the encounters made, are so transformative and so blissfull that people need to resort to pre exiting beliefs and idea to put them into words. If we look clesely at them, there might not actually be the usual depiction Jesus present in the NDE, but some kind of superior being/force that is then identified by the person as Jesus/god/angel and so forth. It is a way to describe the undescribable.