Coma’s and NDE’s

I have been reading a book about coma’s and near death experiences . For someone who has been into these topics for many years , I’m surprised to learn so much about people’s experiences within a coma , the variety of experiences . While familiar with the medical condition of “locked in syndrome,” I’ve never heard of “cognitive motor dissociation.” TERRIFYING!

Anyways …

So many experiences that we say are evidence of it “must be real,” when it comes to , say, NDE’s, like “realer than real.” 

People in comas report some crazy stuff and they claim it’s not like a dream, it’s like a memory, and they can “remember it like yesterday.”

Some are clearly hallucinations, but others sound just like NDE’s.

One person even had a bunch of weird experiences but no observable EEG activity , while in a coma ? I don’t know the medical stuff . I’m not a doc . If anyone wants the info of the book just let me know .

I’m just making the point that there is a lot to “accidently … not know.” And the level of expertise is quite specific . Even someone like Sam Parnia, a CPR expert and someone who knows a lot about the brain, never referenced this coma research . He makes it sound like two options . Pleasant NDE’s are “real,” and “bad NDE’s” are related to hallucinations or medical related , earthly stuff … but in reality , lots of other options .

Just food for thought

The video shared in this post may be relevant to this topic:
https://psiencequest.net/forums/thread-w...a#pid62673

I have been reading a book about coma’s and near death experiences . For someone who has been into these topics for many years , I’m surprised to learn so much about people’s experiences within a coma , the variety of experiences . While familiar with the medical condition of “locked in syndrome,” I’ve never heard of “cognitive motor dissociation.” TERRIFYING!

Sure, what's the name of the book?

Sure, what's the name of the book?

Coma and the Near Death Experience: the beautiful, disturbing and dangerous world of the unconscious by Alan and Beverly Pearce.

Coma and the Near Death Experience: the beautiful, disturbing and dangerous world of the unconscious by Alan and Beverly Pearce.

Thanks. That directly ties it together with the video mentioned above, featuring Alan Pearce.

Thanks. That directly ties it together with the video mentioned above, featuring Alan Pearce.

Yes sir . I had it saved and recently bought it . I had forgotten about it and it probably was ur original posting of this video that brought my attention to it , so thank u!

I have been reading a book about coma’s and near death experiences . For someone who has been into these topics for many years , I’m surprised to learn so much about people’s experiences within a coma , the variety of experiences . While familiar with the medical condition of “locked in syndrome,” I’ve never heard of “cognitive motor dissociation.” TERRIFYING!

Anyways …

So many experiences that we say are evidence of it “must be real,” when it comes to , say, NDE’s, like “realer than real.” 

People in comas report some crazy stuff and they claim it’s not like a dream, it’s like a memory, and they can “remember it like yesterday.”

Some are clearly hallucinations, but others sound just like NDE’s.

One person even had a bunch of weird experiences but no observable EEG activity , while in a coma ? I don’t know the medical stuff . I’m not a doc . If anyone wants the info of the book just let me know .

I’m just making the point that there is a lot to “accidently … not know.” And the level of expertise is quite specific . Even someone like Sam Parnia, a CPR expert and someone who knows a lot about the brain, never referenced this coma research . He makes it sound like two options . Pleasant NDE’s are “real,” and “bad NDE’s” are related to hallucinations or medical related , earthly stuff … but in reality , lots of other options .

Just food for thought

Curious about some of the descriptions you mention seem like hallucinations...There are a variety of afterlife descriptions that make it seem as if the immediate afterlife may just be landscape of dreams, shaped by our expectations. And of course the weird DMT realms have oddly similar descriptions...

All to say the descriptions that are "clearly hallucinations" may in fact be types of afterlives.The nature of these afterlives may be shaped by the strongest minds or strongest collection of minds wanting a particular area to be a certain way.

I also agree that Parnia is too quick to say pleasant NDEs are the actuality while unpleasant ones have terrestrial explanations. I do think, having observed a relative experience "hospital delusion", he might be on to something but he seems to be putting the desired conclusion ahead of the evidence.

For me the veridical aspects of NDEs, along with other Survival evidence + philosophical considerations + my own "weird" experiences have made me confident there's an afterlife....I just have little confidence that we know what this afterlife is like or that we all go to the same place...