Thought I may as well post this here since this kind of encompasses most of the topics discussed on here. This caused quite the controversy/stir in the comments in the New York Times, particularly given how responsive the author was in the comments. Bruce Fenton also left a comment I noticed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/style...death.html
A lot of argumentative comments followed, including the usual "There's been no hard evidence for hundreds of years so why would we have any now" and "but brain damage, anaesthesia and electrical stimulation prove physicalism!".
Arrogant assertions and accusations of wishful thinking included as well, worded as if they didn't even read the article and only the headline (wouldn't surprise me). When someone mentioned veridical NDEs, one retort was the usual excuse "they weren't specific enough though" and "they weren't documented properly". Both, to my knowledge, are made by people who don't understand the difference between an anecdote and a case study.
Similarly, the responses from that 'boingboing' forum were brief but equally as ignorant and rude:
For those interested, this is the official website: http://bigelowinstitute.org/
Apparently Bigelow was heavily invested in all kinds of paranormal topics, but most notably UFOs.
Edit: Hot takes all around it seems, though plenty are just variations of 'waste of money': https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/fo.../#comments
I commend Bigelow for his bravery in this as he faces such ridicule, with several people notably not understanding that he's not looking for 'proof'. He's looking for an essay on the 'best evidence'.
Perhaps some here might feel up to the challenge?
(This post was last modified: 2021-01-28, 11:35 PM by OmniVersalNexus.)
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/style...death.html
Quote:Last June, four months after bone marrow disease and leukemia claimed the life of his wife of 55 years, Diane Mona Bigelow, at 72, Mr. Bigelow quietly founded the Bigelow Institute for Consciousness Studies to support research into what happens after death.
It set the stage for his new afterlife contest, seeking the best available evidence of survival of consciousness, with prizes of $500,000, $300,000 and $150,000 for first, second and third place. The winners will be announced on Nov. 1. Entrants must qualify as serious researchers by Feb. 28, with a record of at least five years of study of the field and preferably an affiliation with groups like the Society for Psychical Research in Britain. Submissions of up to 25,000 words are due by Aug. 1, to be judged by a panel of specialists. Mr. Bigelow said he had an idea what that best evidence might be, but “it would be prejudicial to say.”...
...The panel to judge the submissions includes Dr. Christopher C. Green, a psychiatrist and neuroscientist at the Detroit Medical Center and Wayne State College of Medicine who served with the Central Intelligence Agency; Jeffrey J. Kripal, a professor of philosophy and religious thought at Rice University; and the investigative reporter Leslie Kean, the author of the 2017 book “Surviving Death: A Journalist Investigates Evidence For an Afterlife,” the basis of a six-part series on Netflix.
Mr. Bigelow said that of two “Holy Grail” questions — whether bodily death marked the end of existence and whether we are alone in the cosmos — he put survival of consciousness first, with a special moral aspect. “It may matter what you do while you’re here,” he said. “It could make a difference on the other side.”
A lot of argumentative comments followed, including the usual "There's been no hard evidence for hundreds of years so why would we have any now" and "but brain damage, anaesthesia and electrical stimulation prove physicalism!".
Arrogant assertions and accusations of wishful thinking included as well, worded as if they didn't even read the article and only the headline (wouldn't surprise me). When someone mentioned veridical NDEs, one retort was the usual excuse "they weren't specific enough though" and "they weren't documented properly". Both, to my knowledge, are made by people who don't understand the difference between an anecdote and a case study.
Similarly, the responses from that 'boingboing' forum were brief but equally as ignorant and rude:
Quote:Setting up a prize like this is just commiting yourself to fielding nonsense from religious zealots, NDE crackpots, and paranormal believers for however long you can put up with it.I shouldn't be surprised by this pseudo-intellectual and insultingly ignorant crap given this is the same community that reacted incredibly harshly to the article criticising James Randi. But the BoingBoing piece was incredibly short and so warranted even more ignorant responses.
The problem is that people think their life experience is evidence. They think their feelings about something are also probably evidence (or at least directional). Throw in a lack of science knowledge, and you get things like people swearing they saw a brightly lit tunnel, or floated above the operating room table near death (both neurologically well understood phenomena related to your brain shutting down).
If 200 years of science haven’t turned up even a shred of evidence for dualism, then some rich guy scared of death sure isn’t gonna do it.
For those interested, this is the official website: http://bigelowinstitute.org/
Apparently Bigelow was heavily invested in all kinds of paranormal topics, but most notably UFOs.
Edit: Hot takes all around it seems, though plenty are just variations of 'waste of money': https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/fo.../#comments
Quote:What a tremendous waste of money. I hope I don't get that delusional at an advanced age. I'd rather just pass with my faculties intact.
I commend Bigelow for his bravery in this as he faces such ridicule, with several people notably not understanding that he's not looking for 'proof'. He's looking for an essay on the 'best evidence'.
Perhaps some here might feel up to the challenge?