(2017-09-04, 09:10 PM)Leuders Wrote: Dean Radin have you seen this blog?
http://americanloons.blogspot.co.uk/2014...radin.html
Or this article:
http://www.csicop.org/si/show/when_big_e...upernormal
How do you respond to such criticisms about your research?
I'm not sure if this is appropriate for this thread, or this part of the forum (and I speak as someone skeptical of Radin's work).
Let's try and stick to the study/studies.
(2017-09-04, 09:10 PM)Leuders Wrote: Dean Radin have you seen this blog?
http://americanloons.blogspot.co.uk/2014...radin.html
Or this article:
http://www.csicop.org/si/show/when_big_e...upernormal
How do you respond to such criticisms about your research?
Yes, those are two reputable sources that I am sure will hurt his feelings very much
(2017-09-04, 09:41 PM)Dante Wrote: Yes, those are two reputable sources that I am sure will hurt his feelings very much
Great spots you hang out at there Leuders. Quite a cesspool of knowledge.
(2017-09-04, 09:41 PM)Dante Wrote: Yes, those are two reputable sources that I am sure will hurt his feelings very much
I think that bringing them up speaks more of the standards of who posted them than Radin himself, to be honest. Its like someone posting a fundamentalist site that links psi to witchcraft and uses Deuteromy 18:9 as the reference.
"Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before..."
AW... Going back to the actual study... Why exactly is the 2015 study that used speakers relevant, when Dean already noted that Guerrer used the variant with the headphones? That question is still there waiting for an answer, Max.
"Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before..."
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(2017-09-04, 08:37 PM)Max_B Wrote: Very last time... after this I'm ignoring your whining accusations until you do some research yourself... like reading a study paper for once in your life... and trying to make sense of it yourself
I've already linked you to a Radin study from 2015 that used speakers...
Quote from Exp II "...feedback tone was provided by speakers rather than headphones..."
Don't be rude, you're all over the place and you still haven't answered my questions (because you can't).
(2017-09-04, 08:40 PM)UMax_B Wrote: That logic is buggered...
Not really, I'm using your logic on you Max. It's clearly not due to sound caused by meditators, or some other vibrational noise, or the feedback noise. If it was the online experiments, ones without speakers etc wouldn't get a positive effect. Why can't you admit you're wrong?
(2017-09-04, 09:10 PM)Leuders Wrote: Dean Radin have you seen this blog?
http://americanloons.blogspot.co.uk/2014...radin.html
Or this article:
http://www.csicop.org/si/show/when_big_e...upernormal
How do you respond to such criticisms about your research?
(2017-09-04, 09:17 PM)malf Wrote: I'm not sure if this is appropriate for this thread, or this part of the forum (and I speak as someone skeptical of Radin's work).
Let's try and stick to the study/studies.
Malf is right, Leuders.
This video shows some of Guerrer's setup:
The interview is in Portuguese, no subtitles but it's basically our typical metaphysical banter about inert matter accounting for experience, nothing new for those that frequent these forums.
"Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before..."
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(2017-09-04, 07:45 PM)Max_B Wrote: Oh, I see, you haven't read one of Radin's experiments... You don't know about the Omm chant and richly harmonic sounds played through speakers and headphones which feeds back through the device, so that it gets louder during concentration periods...
Dude,
the study linked in the OP clearly states that they used noise cancelling headphones (QuietComfort 25; Bose).
These ones:
https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/head...vices.html
Loudspeakers are not part of the setup.
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