(2024-06-25, 11:16 AM)Brian Wrote: Mark Carlotto who compiled the information and wrote the article is the creator of Ancient Aliens, a multi-times debunked pile of utter nonsense. Let's be careful how we tread and how we interpret the information here!
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Mark Carlotto has had a long career investigating and espousing what he finds to be extensive archaeological evidence for the existence of very ancient prehistoric human civilizations that may have developed advanced technology tens of thousands of years ago long before recorded history, drastically conflicting with the picture accepted in the mainstream archaeology and anthropology community. I think there is at least some evidence of this, and that it bears investigation.
This investigation appears to be in the same spirit in its conflict with establishment Science, as the pursuit of the paranormal, afterlife, Intelligent Design and UFO topics in this Psiencequest forum.
I further think that unfortunately Carlotto's notion is probably unlikely for two main reasons involved with lack of evidence: (1) any prehistoric development of high technology would have left indelible traces in the Earth, in the form of ancient (from prehistory) mineshafts and drilling sites, and the at least partial exhaustion of oil, gas, coal and metal ore deposits; none have ever been found, and (2) the notion that certain ancient monuments like the Pyramids may have utilized technology much older than conventional archaeological dating admits conflicts with extensive archaeological datings of material, conventional Egyptological archaeological understanding of how the pyramid-building technology was gradually, incrementally developed by the ancient Egyptians in early historical time, and also the existence of king lists covering the period.
But Carlotto's hypothesis is still a legitimate paradigm-busting field challenging the orthodox closed-minded science community.
It should also be noted that Carlotto appears to reject the notion that these posited very early prehistoric civilizations had some sort of alien influence or origin (which looked at unbiasedly appears not to be impossible), and his UFO paper that I covered in my OP post has legitimate statistical reasoning leading to his conclusions regarding some hints into the probable nature of the currently and for the last 80 years experienced UFO phenomenon.
I think that his espousal of the prehistoric civilization theory doesn't impede his ability to present a coherently reasoned-through scientific paper on the meaning of the statistics of the UFO phenomenon over the last 80 years. To my knowledge no one else has ever taken the trouble to really look into the statistics of the UFO phenomenon and the meaning of them as to the probably nature of the phenomenon. And in his UFO paper he makes no mention of his ancient civilization interests, and they appear to be unrelated. His position appears to be unbiased regarding the possibility of the physical reality of UFOs and their possible nature as ETIs or some other intelligence even stranger, with an interest in humanity, and he apparently thinks that they may not be extraterrestrial. These are all ideas considered before in attempted analyses of the enigmatic UFO phenomenon.
A summary of his not totally unreasonable views regarding previous prehistoric civilizations, from https://beforeatlantis.com/2018/10/03/an...ypothesis/ :
Quote:"The age and distribution of the ancient sites that I discovered suggested another (more likely) possibility (than Erich von Däniken's or Zecharia Sitchin’s theories): that the original structures at these sites might have been built by a previous, highly developed technological civilization that existed throughout the world tens of thousands of years ago or more. Instead of an exogenous (i.e., extraterrestrial) influence, perhaps an indigenous technological civilization evolved over the timeline of an earlier human migration out of Africa 200,000 to 300,000 years ago, much like we have during the last 70,000 years. If so, our ancestor’s past encounters with this older civilization could have been the source of ancient myths of powerful gods, lost continents, even Atlantis."
About Mark Carlotto: He is an aerospace engineer with over thirty years of experience in satellite imaging, remote sensing, signal and image processing, pattern recognition, and app development. Carlotto received a Ph.D. in Electrical Engineering from Carnegie-Mellon University in 1981 and has published over one hundred technical articles and written six books.