(2021-08-27, 07:01 PM)Laird Wrote: You wrote that it seems "odd [...] why first person PoVs have to come from some prior state."
I interpreted this as meaning:
'Subjects of consciousness ("first person PoVs") precede consciousness; that is, a subject of consciousness is not "generated" by some state of (conscious) affairs, because the subject of consciousness is a prerequisite for such (conscious) states of affairs. Thus, it is odd that the article seems to suggest the opposite.'
I assume you mean 1st person PoVs logically, rather than temporally, precede consciousness?
Quote:Yep. I happen to think that that's a weak point in BK's Analytic Idealism, amounting to "non-conscious consciousness". I don't think it's necessarily fatal, but it is conceptually problematic.
I don't think this is any different than saying thoughts are in consciousness but are not themselves conscious. To me it isn't problematic at all - which isn't to say there aren't other problems/critiques.
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'
- Bertrand Russell
- Bertrand Russell