(2017-09-14, 05:52 PM)Arouet Wrote: But I'm sure you recognise that there are scientists who study standards of evidence. There is a lot of work going on in that field, particularly by scientists like those in the Cochrane Group (www.cochrane.org) or Stanford's METRICS (https://metrics.stanford.edu/).
Scientists have learned quite a bit about what research methods produce more reliable results. They do this by comparing different methods and seeing how the methodology affects the results.
Just hand waving these issues away as just trying to "trump other's people's information or opinion" is not giving, in my opinion, enough consideration to the issue.
True true. I over simplify.
Just as Linda oversimplified when she said that non-recorded evidence is invalid.
The scientific rules of evidence that I have come across have served us well for a couple hundred years. Unfortunately they are generally suited for situations very unlike psi.
So to be as candid as I can be: yes of course I realize there are standard methodologies when it comes to evidence in various fields of science. I am really saying that science has tied themselves in a knot with the very rules that have gotten them this far. And they will proceed no further in understanding things like psi unless those knots are loosened a bit, or maybe completely re-defined.
e.g. Evidence about a two year old boy who knows dozens of facts about a particular WW2 aircraft, and who also knows details about his sister who is now in her 80's, needs to be taken seriously. If it violates some precious 100 year old rule against valid evidence, that rule needs to be amended, or at a minimum reasonable intelligent people need to look honestly at the details of such a story and decide while pushing the "rules of evidence" aside.
Otherwise we will continue to have what we have now, people using this as an excuse to avoid talking about some pretty amazing stuff.