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Rather than taking new ideas - even spiritual ones - and adding them to your idea of who you are in order to define yourself, instead turn your attention toward full present moment awareness of the Now. Even if you cannot sense it at this moment, your awareness itself - your consciousness - transcends the forms that it is currently beholding and identifying with.

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(2022-09-15, 12:35 AM)Ninshub Wrote: Rather than taking new ideas - even spiritual ones - and adding them to your idea of who you are in order to define yourself, instead turn your attention toward full present moment awareness of the Now. Even if you cannot sense it at this moment, your awareness itself - your consciousness - transcends the forms that it is currently beholding and identifying with.

Anyone care to guess?

Christian Sundberg?
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


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Damn, did you google that? Big Grin  (The source of the quote.)

I was waiting for someone to say "Rupert Spira" or "Eckhart Tolle".

I'm struck by the strong similarities between a lot of what he says and those types of teachings. Everything is in consciousness, etc. How "you" is your awareness.

Another very similar thing he'll talk about is how to deal with your pain/suffering: by going completely into it, repeatedly, with complete acceptance, putting aside the thoughts and "story" about it. The process he details follows the exact same steps, advice, that I hear in videos by Spira. I could put two videos side by side and it's quite stunning.

I think one of the only few substantial differences is how the awareness is about a "you" that doesn't (immediately) go back to one collective mind/Source/God. I'm inclined to think the non-dual teachings say something that is true on the ultimate level (Source created the Selves, therefore yes it is all one same "stuff", awareness), but as Kamarling said in another thread it jumps over a step, or what our reality is on less fundamental levels (but still deeper than incarnate reality would lead us to assume - i.e. matter, "bodies", egos).

I ordered the book and look forward to reading it. I'll see if he mentions anything in his own experiences as to any knowledge of how the Selves relate to the ultimate Subject.
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(2022-09-15, 01:21 AM)Ninshub Wrote: Damn, did you google that? Big Grin  (The source of the quote.)

I was waiting for someone to say "Rupert Spira" or "Eckhart Tolle".

I'm struck by the strong similarities between a lot of what he says and those types of teachings. Everything is in consciousness, etc. How "you" is your awareness.

Another very similar thing he'll talk about is how to deal with your pain/suffering: by going completely into it, repeatedly, with complete acceptance, putting aside the thoughts and "story" about it. The process he details follows the exact same steps, advice, that I hear in videos by Spira. I could put two videos side by side and it's quite stunning.

I think one of the only few substantial differences is how the awareness is about a "you" that doesn't (immediately) go back to one collective mind/Source/God. I'm inclined to think the non-dual teachings say something that is true on the ultimate level (Source created the Selves, therefore yes it is all one same "stuff", awareness), but as Kamarling said in another thread it jumps over a step, or what our reality is on less fundamental levels (but still deeper than incarnate reality would lead us to assume - i.e. matter, "bodies", egos).

I ordered the book and look forward to reading it. I'll see if he mentions anything in his own experiences as to any knowledge of how the Selves relate to the ultimate Subject.

Oh apologies I thought you were looking for the source of the quote. But yes I googled it.

He seems interesting, would be cool to try and snag an interview after you read some of the book...
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


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OK, that makes sense! 

No problem - I should have worded it more clearly...
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(2022-09-15, 01:54 AM)Sciborg_S_Patel Wrote: He seems interesting, would be cool to try and snag an interview after you read some of the book...

That's a thought. I'll at least take note of unanswered questions I have as I'm reading the book, and some of those questions I already have through things we've been discussing recently on this board, and I'll see if there's enough there to do something like that with it.
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By the way, Christian makes his book available to read for free on Google Books because he didn't do it for the money. See the link on his website.

But I prefer having my own copy 'cause I always like to underline and take notes.
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