The Gateway: Teal Swan

Interesting podcast exposing Teal Swan.

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/panoply/the-gateway-2

Interesting podcast exposing Teal Swan.

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/panoply/the-gateway-2

I didn't listen to every bit... but she sounded pretty angry, uncompromising, and volunteered that she's done with living safely, and want's to take risks... I don't think that's a good place to be coming from to help other people.

Personally, I think that is absolutely fine for an individual them-self, but, I'm extremely uncomfortable with promoting yourself and these ideas to actually find people who are struggling and are asking for help... she feels a somewhat unyielding (as opposed to open and flexible), careless (as opposed to caring), and angry (as opposed to calm and loving) person to put your 'self' into the hands of.

In fact, I'll tell you a story that reminds me of this issue...

My mother took my sister and I to the swimming baths to learn to swim, probably when I was around 7-8... on each side of the pool were swimming teachers... and we had to choose which one to go with to learn to swim. My sister chose a lady halfway down the left hand side of the pool who was teaching other children from the side of the pool using polystyrene floats. I chose a tall old guy on the right hand side of the pool nearest me at the shallow end where it looked safer.

The old man had no other pupils, he put a rope and harness round my chest... and then from the side of the pool he pulled the rope, and me, towards him... I immediately went under the water... and came up spluttering and spitting water... he told me I had "to swim, or I would go under" ...after a few more attempts of going under I was in tears, and feeling brutalized, and refused to do anything more, getting out of the pool in tears, and running to mum for a hug, and to be comforted.

My sister learnt to swim, I didn't. It was another year before mum tried again, and found me a recommended private teacher, Mr Geldhart, he was a kindly old man who actually got into the pool with me. He simply asked me to trust him, and lie on my back in the pool, while he supported me under my back with his hands. I got comfortable with my head submerged in the water over my ears. Once I was comfortable, he said he would slowly reduce the support of his hands under my back, to just one hand, but would stay right there and hold me. After a while he finally removed all his support, and held both his hands up in the air where I could see them. I knew I could float, and it was amazing... he quickly started teaching me to enjoy the water... sinking to the bottom of the pool by expelling my breath, flicking water long distances on the surface etc., then teaching me backstroke, then breast stroke... it was done.

Swan reminds me a bit of the old man who put a rope round my chest... swim, or go under. Survive, or drown, it's a brutal method, particularly for those who are sensitive. When it's life or death, I want a teacher who would get themselves wet, by getting in the pool with me, would hold me, and would care for me.

I don't have much time for people who don't get into the pool with you and get wet themselves, who don't demonstrate that they practice what they preach, who don't demonstrate they care for you as an individual, and who don't show they will hold you, and support you when you are scared. Mr Geldhart was a great swimming teacher...

Some websites put her net worth at between 1 and 5 million from her youtube and other earnings.

[Laird]

Thanks, chuck. That was an interesting podcast series. Jennings was more than fair to her, I thought, given the harshness of some of the criticisms that have been made - see the thread below.

Cross-linking to: Teal Swan's interesting perspective on the nature of Mediumship and Channelling

[Laird]

Also, Tori McLellan comes up in one of the podcasts. Here's an article she (apparently) wrote which is worth reading.

I watched some videos of Teal Swan some years ago when I was researching during my post stroke spiritual phase. Some people I liked more than others, she was in the ‘no thanks’ group for me. 

I wonder how our brain allows individuals to get placed in ‘bins’ in our head? Some we eagerly listen to and some we don’t.

I watched some videos of Teal Swan some years ago when I was researching during my post stroke spiritual phase. Some people I liked more than others, she was in the ‘no thanks’ group for me. 

I wonder how our brain allows individuals to get placed in ‘bins’ in our head? Some we eagerly listen to and some we don’t.

Do you reckon the brain is in charge of such things, rather than us choosing of our own free will?

Do you reckon the brain is in charge of such things, rather than us choosing of our own free will?

I’ve no idea Typoz. For my own preferred theory to work, it ought to be our free will, but I’m not sure that it is totally free to make decisions. Our ego seems to be influenced by lots of things, so it’s never totally our own. Maybe we choose these challenges before coming here to see if we can make good choices in spite of our ego?

I’ve no idea Typoz. For my own preferred theory to work, it ought to be our free will, but I’m not sure that it is totally free to make decisions. Our ego seems to be influenced by lots of things, so it’s never totally our own. Maybe we choose these challenges before coming here to see if we can make good choices in spite of our ego?

Well, in my own case, I'm only able to go as far as saying my aim is to make different choices than last time. I'm not able to claim that I make good choices. Certainly I'd like to, but I'm wondering whether it is important simply to come to see the world from different angles.

It's funny, in my schooldays there was an idea of 'keeping to the straight and narrow path', which was presented to us as meaning to follow the flavour of Christianity which we were taught. But I don't feel I've in any usual sense followed a straight path, I've wandered all over the place (not in physical travel, but in ways of approaching life). On the other hand, I've tended to be led by my conscience - when I listen to it. Sometimes I've ignored it. Perhaps the only 'straight' path is one where we follow our conscience, even if it might mean wandering.

Edit: Apologies to the OP for wandering off the topic of this thread.