Talking ETs

So with all the people who have purportedly visited- How did they get there? If they were transported by vehicles, who built them? Where did they leave from? Why haven't organizations like NORDAD tracked them? 

Doesn't it make you wonder how such an enormous task could be accomplished without the story ever getting out?

"The Avatars of The Phoenix Lights" are the Yahyel, the first hybrids (Grey-human-other) that will make first contact. They piloted the Phoenix Lights ship hence "Avatars".

They are speaking from the point of view of most ETs, All Is One, One Is All. When he alludes to "you" as in "mechanisms that you did place outside of Earth" he is speaking from the standpoint of the assistance given by ETs who are, as far as they are concerned, in one brotherhood with humans. All of us are genetic mutts, mixed one with the other.

For instance, the Greys are one version of our future selves who have 'returned in time' in a cooperative program of expansion and education. Often, in the abduction or taking scenarios, they will say "I am you".

They understand that the 2nd Law "The One is the All and the All is the One" as one of the foundations of Creation and live accordingly.


When faced with the inevitable first contact, those that have hidden away information they have collected over many decades will be heavily pressured to come forward. Then, and only then, we will have a chance at knowing what they know, who they tracked, what they have communicated, what they have recorded.

From Wikipedia:

Most major moons in the Solar System − the gravitationally rounded satellites − are tidally locked with their primaries, because they orbit very closely and tidal force increases rapidly (as a cubic function) with decreasing distance.[11] Notable exceptions are the irregular outer satellites of the gas giants, which orbit much farther away than the large well-known moons.

Pluto and Charon are an extreme example of a tidal lock. Charon is a relatively large moon in comparison to its primary and also has a very close orbit. This results in Pluto and Charon being mutually tidally locked. Pluto's other moons are not tidally locked; Styx, Nix, Kerberos, and Hydra all rotate chaotically due to the influence of Charon.
The tidal locking situation for asteroid moons is largely unknown, but closely orbiting binaries are expected to be tidally locked, as well as contact binaries.

'Nuff said.

okeydokey.

OK. So there are all these bases on the dark side of the moon. But the entire moon has now been mapped at high resolution. Where are the picture so these bases?

The entire surface of the moon has been mapped. Regardless, beings that can travel interdimensionally, without time lapse, shouldn't have a whole lot of problems with remaining undercover.

Their function on the moon varies. They are lookouts watching us as we break through into new enlightenments, some are way-stationers, others are mining, a few are regulating...

"There are electro-gravitic implants within the body of the Moon, deep within. They are discovered and registered on your instrumentation as what you have referred to as mascons: massive concentrations deep within the body of the Moon about what you would call 20 miles below the surface, that are large disc-like objects, that are responsible for creating a relocation of the gravitational matrix and moving the Moon, to its present location, and regulating its orbit." ~Bashar, 1997

The entire surface of the moon has been mapped. Regardless, beings that can travel interdimensionally, without time lapse, shouldn't have a whole lot of problems with remaining undercover.

Their function on the moon varies. They are lookouts watching us as we break through into new enlightenments, some are way-stationers, others are mining, a few are regulating...

"There are electro-gravitic implants within the body of the Moon, deep within. They are discovered and registered on your instrumentation as what you have referred to as mascons: massive concentrations deep within the body of the Moon about what you would call 20 miles below the surface, that are large disc-like objects, that are responsible for creating a relocation of the gravitational matrix and moving the Moon, to its present location, and regulating its orbit." ~Bashar, 1997

So what you are saying is: that if Bashar says it, you will believe it, even if not a shred of evidence is provided.

Hey, go right ahead. It's your choice.

It's the same thing I said in a post last week: when do we decide, no,,, that I won't believe. I understand, it's hard to draw a line. But these things are WAY past my personal line. There's just no reason to believe it in terms of evidence, that I am aware of. 

UFOs? Yes. This stuff? Nope. Not for me.

So what you are saying is: that if Bashar says it, you will believe it, even if not a shred of evidence is provided.

Hey, go right ahead. It's your choice.

It's the same thing I said in a post last week: when do we decide, no,,, that I won't believe. I understand, it's hard to draw a line. But these things are WAY past my personal line. There's just no reason to believe it in terms of evidence, that I am aware of. 

UFOs? Yes. This stuff? Nope. Not for me.

I keep going over this with you, it is getting to be old ground.

I never stated that Bashar is 100% credible and absolutely accurate, that is your extrapolation and poorly done.

I find the evidence in what he says in regard to how this physical illusion works, why we are here, and how to go about our business in the most efficient manner to maximize our experiences. Remember me stating that all of this could be condensed onto an 8" x 11" piece of paper? It ain't rocket science.

If you want evidence, find the basic concepts he teaches, try them on and see for yourself. Otherwise, you are making decisions based on your own self-imposed limitations, a serious lack of understanding of the character of the communicating ET factions and definitions that are narrowly limited and derived from an over-tasked physical mind.

I keep going over this with you, it is getting to be old ground.

I never stated that Bashar is 100% credible and absolutely accurate, that is your extrapolation and poorly done.

I find the evidence in what he says in regard to how this physical illusion works, why we are here, and how to go about our business in the most efficient manner to maximize our experiences. Remember me stating that all of this could be condensed onto an 8" x 11" piece of paper? It ain't rocket science.

If you want evidence, find the basic concepts he teaches, try them on and see for yourself. Otherwise, you are making decisions based on your own self-imposed limitations, a serious lack of understanding of the character of the communicating ET factions and definitions that are narrowly limited and derived from an over-tasked physical mind.

I'm not talking about concepts. I'm talking about bases on the moon. 

These are not things I need to try on for myself. They either are, or the are not. 

We are not talking about philosophy at this moment. We are talking about whether disks are or are not located 20 miles below the surface of the moon. Bashar said they are. You are telling me they are. I can only assume that the reason you believe they are, is because Bashar said so. 

Why are you making this more convoluted than that simple fact?

Pssst

The thing is, though, the information you got from your sources about the moon turned out to be badly wrong. Doesn't that make you wonder about the reliability of the information?

Pssst

The thing is, though, the information you got from your sources about the moon turned out to be badly wrong. Doesn't that make you wonder about the reliability of the information?

There not badly wrong, that's an attempt to invalidate not well played.

There not badly wrong, that's an attempt to invalidate not well played.

You think it's not badly wrong to say that the moon is the only satellite in the known universe with that property, when it's the norm for satellites of that kind? And that false statement was coupled with a claim that the moon had been technologically altered to have that property? You say it really doesn't make you wonder about the reliability of your sources?

I'm not talking about concepts. I'm talking about bases on the moon. 

These are not things I need to try on for myself. They either are, or the are not. 

We are not talking about philosophy at this moment. We are talking about whether disks are or are not located 20 miles below the surface of the moon. Bashar said they are. You are telling me they are. I can only assume that the reason you believe they are, is because Bashar said so. 

Why are you making this more convoluted than that simple fact?

Again, you speculate to the point of obfuscation.

Time and time again I have quoted other ET sources than Bashar who I rely upon to augment my understanding of physical reality. Spirit talks about moon structures so do the astronauts from many nations. As do exopliticians, RVers (Swann, Daz Smith and McDoneagle) and many of the published and non-published OBErs. NASA ex-stafers, the list goes on and on.

I find knowledge in a compilation of evidences - somehow, someway this has magically eluded you or you are being snarky for the sake of who knows what- although Bashar, without any doubt, is the most prolific information-giver at this moment in time.

It's time that you quit purposefully attempting to narrowly define my experience-base when you - as do most daily readers of this forum - know better.

In the end-all, moon bases are inconsequential, whether you or I or anyone else believes they exist is inconsequential in light of the weightier matters of the spiritual day.