Psychology is the New Mysticism

...We could use the word God source, whatever word we want to use for that. And I mean, if I go back to my early twenties, when I first became interested in the Kabbalah Jewish mysticism, at that point I was beginning my career as a neuroscientist, as a psychologist, or a research psychologist. And I kind of came to the conclusion quite early on that the most insightful things that I was reading about the nature of the mind and the potential of our own being were coming from the mystic side and not from the psychology side.

Although at that time, I decided that they should be coming from the psychology side. I mean, this is about the mind. Psychology is the study, many would say science of the mind and behavior. So as far as I was concerned, I was being enriched through my interest in mysticism, mainly the Kabbalah, which I became interested in at that stage. And my orientation was that there was a challenge here. The challenge was to try and work on the psychology side with this equation to bring it, as it were, more in line with the powerful insights that I was understanding through my reading, but also through experiential work in a more kind of mystical framework, virtual framework. That was the challenge. And I would say now, more than 50 years later, that's something I've tried to work on. I wouldn't say I've achieved it...