Quote:Prof Oliver Howes, chair of the Royal College of Psychiatrists' Psychopharmacology Committee, is optimistic. He says he sees psychedelics as a promising potential new treatment for psychiatric disorders - including for patients in the NHS.
Quote:Others have also urged caution. A report by the Royal College of Psychiatrists, published in September 2025, warned of the potential dangers of psychedelics, and doctors also stress that taking psychedelic drugs is not just illegal but can also be harmful.
Quote:Dr Das believes positive results from trials might change views as the emerging scientific evidence mounts. "I hope if there's sufficient evidence, the government will be open to revising the scheduling of these drugs," he says.
However, an analysis, published in the British Medical Journal in November 2024 by a PhD student Cédric Lemarchand and colleagues, questioned how easy it was to determine the precise effect of psychedelic drugs.
"Because hallucinogens are often combined with a psychotherapy component, it is difficult to separate the effects of the drug from the therapeutic context, complicating comprehensive evaluations and product labelling."
It also suggested short-term trials may not detect "the potential for harm and serious adverse events from long-term use of hallucinogens… The potential for abuse or misuse must also be considered."
Quote:More than 18,000 people have already gone through Oregon’s psilocybin program, and the early data on adverse events has been positive.
According to the Oregon Health Authority, there have been 23 incidents requiring emergency services, which experts consider low. Many of the calls involved clients in distress who sought to prematurely leave their session against the advice of a facilitator.
Angela Allbee, who oversees psilocybin services at the Oregon Health Authority, said that none of the incidents were serious.
“Statistically speaking, psilocybin therapy is safer than golfing,” said Ryan Reid, the operations director and co-founder of Bendable Therapy in Bend. “It’s safer than anyone thought it would be.”
That said, Oregon prohibits those with schizophrenia and active psychosis from participating in the program, because the drug can trigger or exacerbate manic and psychotic symptoms. For those without serious psychiatric diagnoses, the side effects can include headaches, nausea, anxiety and fluctuations in blood pressure.
Psilocybin’s therapeutic benefits are tied to the drug’s ability to temporarily rewire the brain, helping patients break the cycle of negative thinking that is the hallmark of many hard-to-treat mental health conditions. In a therapeutic setting, the drug can provide fresh insights into unresolved childhood trauma, or help a terminally ill patient find joy in daily life, experts say.
“What we see reliably through all of these studies is that psilocybin gives people a new perspective on mental health issues, oftentimes when they’ve been stuck for years,” said Heidi Pendergast, the Oregon director of the Healing Advocacy Fund, which promotes state-regulated psychedelic therapy programs around the country. “It’s not a panacea, but it does give people a renewed sense of hope.”
And a related article not about therapy but creativity:
Quote:Work by scholars such as Manesh Girn, who has recently completed a comprehensive review of psychedelics and creativity, is helping clarify how psychedelic states influence brain connectivity and thought dynamics in ways that may facilitate creative generation and novel insight.
Others, including Kalina Christoff, whose work investigates the neural and psychological mechanisms of spontaneous thought, mind-wandering, and creativity, are exploring how unconstrained cognition relates to imagination and insight. Another fantastic cognitive scientist Isabel Weissner investigates how psychedelics such as LSD alter cognitive processes related to creativity—showing that these substances can increase novelty, symbolic thinking, and semantic breadth in problem-solving while reshaping patterns of thought.
Up and coming are scholars like Christine Chesebrough who works to understand how altered states of consciousness influence imaginative and creative processes, and Nick Denomme, who investigates creative cognition and the psychological processes underlying novel idea generation are exploring how spontaneous thought, cognitive flexibility, and altered states intersect. And more senior researchers like Jonathan Schooler have long explored consciousness, mind-wandering, meta-awareness, and the cognitive underpinnings of creativity and problem-solving, emphasizing how fluctuations in attention and spontaneous thought contribute to insight. Together, this research is moving the conversation beyond anecdotes toward testable models.
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I looked at the "clinics" in Oregon that were 'authorized' to administer or coach 'shroom' therapy, and was very disappointed in the results. It has not even been legal for that long, yet 20 years of experience taking psychedelics appears to qualify someone with zero credentials to be your therapist.
Every single place administering this has some sort of woo woo nonsense going on, with very little focus on serious therapy.
The obvious issue to me is that we know that certain psychedelics can and will create plasticity in the brain neural networks. But what we don't know is whether we are creating the correct neural networks to help or heal the actual issues.
We would need to know where these networks are before therapy, and where they should be after therapy, and have a way of monitoring the progress so the networks can be rewired properly and any deviations could be corrected. But we don't.
I have experienced the ketamine folks, the LSD folks, the psilocybin folks, and many others in my lifetime. None of those I have personally known have improved for any lengthy period of time because of any drug experience or drug therapy. Most of them have become worse, or dependent on the experience, or end up losing the last grip on reality and life that they had. To me, drugs are a horrible crutch and very worthless to actual recovery.
Some of them have ended in an early exit from life. Just because that isn't some public study doesn't mean that there aren't a huge number of people trying to self-medicate that end up dead. They usually blame how they died, and not the drugs or the lifestyle that they were leading. They blame guns, driving under the influence, depression, and any number of other things.
Meditation is not even recommended for people with certain mental health issues, because it exacerbates the mental health problems. I lost a friend many decades ago because he was already schizophrenic and started using drugs to try and fix his own issues. I lost a shaman friend just last year that went down the ketamine route and turned a revolver to his own temple.
Of course there are serious issues and consequences to drugs and these kinds of therapies. They are not magic bullets. They are not the cure or fix they claim them to be. Many people are simply using and abusing a system to get high and call it therapy. Many others are using and abusing this system to make a living selling drugs and services, with very little moral or ethical oversight.
I don't think I will ever be a fan of using drugs on broken minds or broken people, unless they spend more time monitoring the actual before, during, and follow-up of each patient instead of just filling their own bank accounts at the expense of the less fortunate.
(2026-02-19, 06:17 PM)Warddurward Wrote: I looked at the "clinics" in Oregon that were 'authorized' to administer or coach 'shroom' therapy, and was very disappointed in the results. It has not even been legal for that long, yet 20 years of experience taking psychedelics appears to qualify someone with zero credentials to be your therapist.
Every single place administering this has some sort of woo woo nonsense going on, with very little focus on serious therapy.
So... a selection bias to feed an inaccurate perspective. You look at one location, as if that says everything you need to know? It seems obvious to me that such clinics will not have clear rules in place, if they can be that sporadic and all over the place.
Stuff being "woo woo" is no indicator of anything, other than that you that is what you believe.
(2026-02-19, 06:17 PM)Warddurward Wrote: The obvious issue to me is that we know that certain psychedelics can and will create plasticity in the brain neural networks. But what we don't know is whether we are creating the correct neural networks to help or heal the actual issues.
We would need to know where these networks are before therapy, and where they should be after therapy, and have a way of monitoring the progress so the networks can be rewired properly and any deviations could be corrected. But we don't.
The brain plasticity is perhaps the least important part of the psychedelic healing process ~ that is just a result of psychological processing and healing, not the cause of psychological processing or healing. Talking about "correct neural networks" is meaningless rhetoric because no-one has a single idea what "correct" looks like.
Knowing how they were before and after therapy is also meaningless ~ what matters is psychological health before and after, especially long-term, as healing can take time in conjunction with integration and processing of the experience.
(2026-02-19, 06:17 PM)Warddurward Wrote: I have experienced the ketamine folks, the LSD folks, the psilocybin folks, and many others in my lifetime. None of those I have personally known have improved for any lengthy period of time because of any drug experience or drug therapy. Most of them have become worse, or dependent on the experience, or end up losing the last grip on reality and life that they had. To me, drugs are a horrible crutch and very worthless to actual recovery.
Those that you have personally known... which is an obvious selection bias.
You seem to generalize them as a whole with some odd rhetoric ~ what does "becoming worse" mean? What does "becoming dependent" means? What does "losing the last grip on reality and life" mean? These words mean something to you that they do not mean to me. Yet you almost... seem to assume that I will understand what you mean? Assumptions never go well.
(2026-02-19, 06:17 PM)Warddurward Wrote: Some of them have ended in an early exit from life. Just because that isn't some public study doesn't mean that there aren't a huge number of people trying to self-medicate that end up dead. They usually blame how they died, and not the drugs or the lifestyle that they were leading. They blame guns, driving under the influence, depression, and any number of other things.
You reference a whole of unrelated stuff that has nothing to do with Psilocybin. I have self-medicated with Ayahuasca and Psilocybin, and in my experience, healing can take weeks and months ~ the experience can take a long time to process and integrate, as it happens unconsciously.
(2026-02-19, 06:17 PM)Warddurward Wrote: Meditation is not even recommended for people with certain mental health issues, because it exacerbates the mental health problems. I lost a friend many decades ago because he was already schizophrenic and started using drugs to try and fix his own issues. I lost a shaman friend just last year that went down the ketamine route and turned a revolver to his own temple.
With alcoholism, do we blame the alcohol, or do we blame the underlying mental health issues that led to the alcoholism? The depression, the anxiety?
Here you are, blaming the substance, without any evidence that it is specifically the substance, and not their lifestyle and environment. You seem to conflate lifestyle with "drugs" in a way that shows your lack of comprehension around the subject.
(2026-02-19, 06:17 PM)Warddurward Wrote: Of course there are serious issues and consequences to drugs and these kinds of therapies. They are not magic bullets. They are not the cure or fix they claim them to be. Many people are simply using and abusing a system to get high and call it therapy. Many others are using and abusing this system to make a living selling drugs and services, with very little moral or ethical oversight.
They are not "magic bullets", no. Healing and integration is never one-and-done with psychedelics ~ healing, integration, takes a long time, as it is a process of psychological shifting and reorganization. Any place that may claim to be one-and-done is selling a lie. But that is also strange, because they're essentially killing their own service...
(2026-02-19, 06:17 PM)Warddurward Wrote: I don't think I will ever be a fan of using drugs on broken minds or broken people, unless they spend more time monitoring the actual before, during, and follow-up of each patient instead of just filling their own bank accounts at the expense of the less fortunate.
Agreed ~ in the cases such accusations are applicable.
“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.”
~ Carl Jung
(2026-02-20, 01:02 AM)Valmar Wrote: I have self-medicated with Ayahuasca and Psilocybin
That appears to be obvious...
And again with your mud slinging hate comments to try and drive me away or bully me from my position.
Quote:shows your lack of comprehension around the subject
What is your problem that you need to bully people and act so arrogant?
Do you seriously think you can see out of the box when you are participating in the box?
You know exactly what those statements mean, but we can certainly dive down the rabbit hole of drug addiction and drug mentality, and how they can't manage to navigate society or life because everything rotates around the drugs and getting high.
One clinic? Seriously, bother to look up the shroom clinics in Oregon and see how many qualified psychologists or therapists you can find. You didn't do the work, and are simply just hacking at me because that is obviously what you do best.
(2026-02-20, 03:21 PM)Warddurward Wrote: That appears to be obvious...
Why would that be "obvious"? You accuse me of assuming, yet you are so quick to assume yourself...
(2026-02-20, 03:21 PM)Warddurward Wrote: And again with your mud slinging hate comments to try and drive me away or bully me from my position.
What is your problem that you need to bully people and act so arrogant?
Critiquing and criticism is not a "hate comment" or "mud slinging" or "bullying", Do you have a victim complex...?
(2026-02-20, 03:21 PM)Warddurward Wrote: Do you seriously think you can see out of the box when you are participating in the box?
You aren't looking into the box ~ you seem to have no experience with which to speak of. You appear to have no understanding of how psychedelics work, if you have never participated in using them yourself. You don't understand the benefits or the risks. I have experienced both clarity and madness, healing and total disintegration, being shattered and then being put back together, amazed that I was whole again.
(2026-02-20, 03:21 PM)Warddurward Wrote: You know exactly what those statements mean, but we can certainly dive down the rabbit hole of drug addiction and drug mentality, and how they can't manage to navigate society or life because everything rotates around the drugs and getting high.
You are making mass generalizations of psychedelics as "drugs", as if they're no different from stimulants, depressants or party drugs.
Psychedelics are not something that one can easily revolve their life around to just get constantly high. Psychedelics tend to be self-regulating in that they become too much for most people, too intense and overwhelming. Some strong-willed individuals can just power through that, and break themselves in the process. But few get that far. It is rarely the psychedelic itself ~ but the individual's mindset.
(2026-02-20, 03:21 PM)Warddurward Wrote: One clinic? Seriously, bother to look up the shroom clinics in Oregon and see how many qualified psychologists or therapists you can find. You didn't do the work, and are simply just hacking at me because that is obviously what you do best.
I never said "one clinic" ~ please improve your reading comprehension.
“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.”
~ Carl Jung
(2026-02-20, 03:51 PM)Valmar Wrote: You aren't looking into the box ~ you seem to have no experience with which to speak of. You appear to have no understanding of how psychedelics work, if you have never participated in using them yourself. You don't understand the benefits or the risks.
Again with the assumptions and mud slinging. What part of this is unclear to you?
(2026-02-20, 04:14 PM)Warddurward Wrote: Again with the assumptions and mud slinging. What part of this is unclear to you?
How about not dancing around the bush, and just making it clear whether or not you have actual experience with psychedelics? And if so, sharing your experiences?
If I have nothing more to work with, then your vague words are all I have to work with.
“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.”
~ Carl Jung
(2026-02-20, 04:25 PM)Valmar Wrote: How about not dancing around the bush, and just making it clear whether or not you have actual experience with psychedelics? And if so, sharing your experiences?
If I have nothing more to work with, then your vague words are all I have to work with.
You would likely use anything I type here as ammo to try to bully or intimidate me with your perceived superiority.
Why would I share with you, the most toxic person I have encountered this week?
You obviously know everything, and are the most informed person here. Nobody can have any experience or opinion without your approval or comment.
(2026-02-20, 05:01 PM)Warddurward Wrote: You would likely use anything I type here as ammo to try to bully or intimidate me with your perceived superiority.
Why would I share with you, the most toxic person I have encountered this week?
You obviously know everything, and are the most informed person here. Nobody can have any experience or opinion without your approval or comment.
... what is wrong with you? Why are you so oddly defensive? How in the world can I possibly be the "most toxic person" you have encountered this week?
“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.”
~ Carl Jung
(2026-02-20, 05:02 PM)Valmar Wrote: ... what is wrong with you? Why are you so oddly defensive? How in the world can I possibly be the "most toxic person" you have encountered this week?
That you can't even see it shows me everything I need to know about trying to communicate my own thoughts and feelings to you.
As if you would ever accept that someone else has a valid point or opinion, all you do is brow beating and insulting everyone you disagree with.
I am always oddly defensive, and I stand my ground and don't bow down to bullies or creeps that try to manipulate.
What is your excuse? Sociopath? Psychopath? Mental health issues? Medications?
Do you think it is any of my business to pry into your issues or your personal life on a forum where we are supposed to be discussing and sharing like grown ups?
I didn't think so. So stop prying and just state your point like a real human in a real debate without lowering yourself to this level of toxic crap.
You don't always get to be right, and you don't get to bully people so that they just back down or agree with you.
And then you don't even realize how toxic that is. Wow.