Our Improbable Existence Is No Evidence for a Multiverse

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(2024-12-09, 05:06 PM)Sciborg_S_Patel Wrote: The problem is in the general roll of the dice case you cannot estimate the number of rolls by observing a single roll.

Similarly, when you only have one universe you cannot use observed conditions as an argument for other unobserved universes.

Another way to look at this is let's say I turn the corner and see someone roll 10 dice that all come up 6. If I were to then exclaim there are actually people all over the city rolling 10 di[c]e in different street corners it would be an error of reason.

But the problem is, there is no certain limit to the possible number of rolls of the universe dice, and in an infinite number over infinite time inevitably the double six Universe with fine tuning will certainly happen, likely another level of infinity of times. Hence a multiverse spread out in time supposedly explains the existence of our fine tuned Universe. Except that this speculation is not falsifiable science.
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(2024-12-10, 01:36 AM)nbtruthman Wrote: But the problem is, there is no certain limit to the possible number of rolls of the universe dice, and in an infinite number over infinite time inevitably the double six Universe with fine tuning will certainly happen, likely another level of infinity of times. Hence a multiverse spread out in time supposedly explains the existence of our fine tuned Universe. Except that this speculation is not falsifiable science.

Sure, *if* there is other evidence for a multiverse then it could explain fine tuning.

The issue Goff is referring to is you can't see fine tuning and then say that is evidence of the multiverse. Especially since the alternative hypothesis - Design - is far more reasonable.

In fact it is because of Fine Tuning that Goff became a theist, albeit of the Cosmopanpsychist Limited God variety.

Essentially the Multiverse is the Materialist Faith's "get out of jail" card. Firstly with having to try and explain the collapse of the wave function, now with avoiding the implications of a Finely Tuned universe.
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


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I think it's an excellently argued article. While there may or may not be other universes, the possibility of multiverses alone cannot explain the observed fundamental constants.
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