Next Level Soul - Quantum Mechanics

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This doesn't seem to be a typical NLS podcast because I don't think the interviewee has had an NDE. It is a discussion about physics and its relationship to reality. I have only just started listening to this, so I don't know yet how profound it will be.

https://nextlevelsoul.com/jeff-carreira/

P.S. I'm not sure this is the right section for this thread.

David
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I've moved it here David, since I don't see any specific mention of psi. The talk seems to be about QM and spirituality in general.

I have noticed there's different types of interviewees on that channel, although often falling into the channel or NDE categories, but not exclusively.
Thanks, Ninshub! I couldn't decide where it would fit best.

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(2023-07-31, 08:32 PM)David001 Wrote: This doesn't seem to be a typical NLS podcast because I don't think the interviewee has had an NDE. It is a discussion about physics and its relationship to reality. I have only just started listening to this, so I don't know yet how profound it will be.

https://nextlevelsoul.com/jeff-carreira/

P.S. I'm not sure this is the right section for this thread.

David

Let us know what you think after you've finished listening.  I love the "physics and its relationship to reality" subject so if you think its well done, I'd give it a listen!
(2023-08-01, 05:47 PM)Silence Wrote: Let us know what you think after you've finished listening.  I love the "physics and its relationship to reality" subject so if you think its well done, I'd give it a listen!

Well it isn't bad. He explores the way in which all our theories depend rather strongly on the way we represent reality. For example, if we were all taught that reality is in our heads and that we only make the 'pixels' we need to represent reality (as many virtual reality setups do) then would the human race have developed the same science as it has?

This is motivated somewhat by the fact that quantum reality seems to depend on what we can know in a curious way. Photons (or electrons) going through a double slit form a diffraction of course, and that is still true if you thin the beam down so that only one particle passes through the slit at once. (This is standard QM by the way) This raises the question as to why the outcome of the experiment depends on the presence of a slit that the particle does not enter! The issue is made more obscure if one slit is equipped with a detector that can detect if the particle went through that slit. In this case no diffraction pattern forms. Thus it would seem that QM is a theory of knowledge rather than matter.

Do what I sometimes do - skip about in the video to decide if it is your kind of stuff, and then watch or not as you see fit.

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Here is another NLS video that sits somewhere on the edge between quantum science and BS.

https://nextlevelsoul.com/cynthia-sue-larson/

I am intrigued by the concept that we may actually have multiple realities here on earth along the lines of the Many Worlds interpretation interpretation of QM, but very very much less prolific. Try not to make your minds up too fast.

David
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The Seth material goes into multiple realities using the term "probable selves" or "probable lives" - all simultaneous. I always struggled with that in the same way that I did the the quantum Many Worlds interpretation. I find the sheer compounding scale of it mind-blowing. However, I'm more inclined towards the Seth version than the MWI version which seems to have been invented to account for quantum weirdness that materialists don't want to deal with, in the same way the the multiverse has been touted as the answer to fine-tuning.
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(2023-09-26, 06:16 AM)Kamarling Wrote: The Seth material goes into multiple realities using the term "probable selves" or "probable lives" - all simultaneous. I always struggled with that in the same way that I did the the quantum Many Worlds interpretation. I find the sheer compounding scale of it mind-blowing. However, I'm more inclined towards the Seth version than the MWI version which seems to have been invented to account for quantum weirdness that materialists don't want to deal with, in the same way the the multiverse has been touted as the answer to fine-tuning.


I got keen on Seth for a while, but I couldn't help feeling that it was intentionally obscure. For example, he refers to "ee units", which maybe suggests electromagnetic phenomena, but never spells out what he means.

At some point I guess QM has to break down and become an approximation. It might be that MWI (which I previously ignored as being a mathematical abstraction) might be suggestive of a greater reality in which reality splits and merges to some extent.

David
(2023-09-26, 07:28 PM)David001 Wrote: I got keen on Seth for a while, but I couldn't help feeling that it was intentionally obscure. For example, he refers to "ee units", which maybe suggests electromagnetic phenomena, but never spells out what he means.

At some point I guess QM has to break down and become an approximation. It might be that MWI (which I previously ignored as being a mathematical abstraction) might be suggestive of a greater reality in which reality splits and merges to some extent.

David
Stuff like that is why I don't give the seth stuff the time of day. I've seen enough supposedly profound quotes from it to know that there's nothing of substance there. I'm definitely far more favorable to the idea of a multiverse for a lot of reasons. One of which being that it's extremely prominent after a certain point in my past life memory complete with a pretty extensive bunch of scientific classifications and presumed mechanisms and such that I have no way of testing but would love to. Granted, assuming the memories are real, which at this point I more or less do, I don't think I had a deep enough level of understanding of any of it and I could easily be misremembering certain aspects, which makes it hard to differentiate from the memories just not being real.

The closest I got to testing it here was with my old poltergeisting experiments. Since one of the claims is that reality is continuous and contiguous, and if true that would mean it should be possible to take a projection or OBE that was presumably on another plane of existence and cause it to sink to this one, since the two were ultimately connected, and then do physical stuff to prove it. And that happened. I now know that poltergeisting is more or less a known thing for OBE's that was even studied somewhat in regards to Alex Tanous. But that of course does not prove a multiverse.

Other reasons is that it seems to be the only way to solve the infinite regression problem that otherwise exists with a singular, constrained reality. There's no reason whatsoever that reality needs to have the rules that it has and that becomes even more puzzling if its somehow the only one. It would be an implicit claim that, somehow, for no reason, infinity was constrained to just this. But with a multiverse, depending on mechanisms for how it worked, it becomes very easy to get something specific and constrained from otherwise unconstrained infinity.

There's supposedly other, harder evidence sort of kind of that reality shifts can happen. One of the most credible stories I've heard came from a researcher who knew two people who were either part of some team of theirs or otherwise also researchers themselves or peripheral to that. They bought something from a stall in a mall that, when they went to return one of those things, found had never existed. Except they had the receipt that included the stall number, which matched the now different store that was now there, and which reportedly made the owner go white and a sheet when they read it, since it should be impossible for that to be true. I've heard other such stories of varying credibility at least in terms of how they sound, but I have no reason to doubt that some of them happen. Which points directly to a multiversal explanation if you could somehow get hard evidence of a change. I'm not sure how or if you could even do that given the nature of teh phenomena.
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