Meat diets vs. vegetarianism

And why pick on poor old Einstein? He himself felt it was inappropriate that he was regarded as somehow special, when he was just one of a number of brilliant men working around that time. This is the fickle nature of celebrity. We see it today, when some musicians are treated as some sort of gods, when one may hear performers as gifted (or better) in one's local pub - if one cares to pay attention.

And why pick on poor old Einstein? He himself felt it was inappropriate that he was regarded as somehow special, when he was just one of a number of brilliant men working around that time. This is the fickle nature of celebrity. We see it today, when some musicians are treated as some sort of gods, when one may hear performers as gifted (or better) in one's local pub - if one cares to pay attention.

That’s probably true. But I would argue that Einstein is the obvious choice.

It’s easier to find his quotes. 

What temerity

There's no temerity involved.

Yeah I get that, but people like Steve can’t help themselves. I have an atheist friend that I really like and respect, but there is one aspect to him that most, if not all, atheists seem to share. It is an unshakeable Faith in Science which often comes across as arrogance. Ironic that on this occasion, Steve is using poor old Einstein.

What Steve is attempting to do, is to tee me up, so that his ego can take a big swing and hit me right down the middle of the fairway. He thinks he knows what Einstein’s ideas were about God. So to tee me up, all he has to do is get me to give my own vague thoughts, then when the two don’t match; voila - the backswing is complete!

I can almost picture Steve’s smug little smile. 







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And why pick on poor old Einstein? He himself felt it was inappropriate that he was regarded as somehow special, when he was just one of a number of brilliant men working around that time. This is the fickle nature of celebrity. We see it today, when some musicians are treated as some sort of gods, when one may hear performers as gifted (or better) in one's local pub - if one cares to pay attention.

Stan is the one whom introduced Einstein into this post 79. It's not about my ego or "faith in science". It's about your understanding of Einstein's position and if it matches your own. In one instance you both have a commonality, he was a pacifist as you seem to be. As to whether you share the same ideas about God...as he did only you know. But I suspect there is a wide chasm. In actually his views reflect my own.

In actually his views reflect my own.

Says who?  You?

Seems the ball has fallen into your court to lay out Einstein's (err your) views so the community can evaluate.

Says who?  You?

Seems the ball has fallen into your court to lay out Einstein's (err your) views so the community can evaluate.

Read Einstein's words.

And why pick on poor old Einstein? He himself felt it was inappropriate that he was regarded as somehow special, when he was just one of a number of brilliant men working around that time. This is the fickle nature of celebrity. We see it today, when some musicians are treated as some sort of gods, when one may hear performers as gifted (or better) in one's local pub - if one cares to pay attention.

I thought this was about the measure of Einstein's take on the question, if it's authentic of course?  God help me if I've mistaken another wild boar for a wolf, again.


The Riverside Church

January 19, 1936

My dear Dr. Einstein,

We have brought up the question: Do scientists pray? in our Sunday school class. It began by asking whether we could believe in both science and religion. We are writing to scientists and other important men, to try and have our own question answered.

We will feel greatly honored if you will answer our question: Do scientists pray, and what do they pray for?

We are in the sixth grade, Miss Ellis's class.

Respectfully yours,

Phyllis

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January 24, 1936

Dear Phyllis (and Steve001) 

I will attempt to reply to your question as simply as I can. Here is my answer:

Scientists believe that every occurrence, including the affairs of human beings, is due to the laws of nature. Therefore a scientist cannot be inclined to believe that the course of events can be influenced by prayer, that is, by a supernaturally manifested wish.

However, we must concede that our actual knowledge of these forces is imperfect, so that in the end the belief in the existence of a final, ultimate spirit rests on a kind of faith. Such belief remains widespread even with the current achievements in science.

But also, everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that some spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe, one that is vastly superior to that of man. In this way the pursuit of science leads to a religious feeling of a special sort, which is surely quite different from the religiosity of someone more naive.

With cordial greetings,

yours A. Einstein

Read Einstein's words.

I figured as much.  Steve's typical all hat and no cattle approach to the community.

I figured as much.  Steve's typical all hat and no cattle approach to the community.

Silence, I replied because if I told you what he wrote you would simply say bs. To read his own words will give you or anyone a deep understanding of Einstein's outlook.

I thought this was about the measure of Einstein's take on the question, if it's authentic of course?  God help me if I've mistaken another wild boar for a wolf, again.


The Riverside Church

January 19, 1936

My dear Dr. Einstein,

We have brought up the question: Do scientists pray? in our Sunday school class. It began by asking whether we could believe in both science and religion. We are writing to scientists and other important men, to try and have our own question answered.

We will feel greatly honored if you will answer our question: Do scientists pray, and what do they pray for?

We are in the sixth grade, Miss Ellis's class.

Respectfully yours,

Phyllis

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January 24, 1936

Dear Phyllis (and Steve001) 

I will attempt to reply to your question as simply as I can. Here is my answer:

Scientists believe that every occurrence, including the affairs of human beings, is due to the laws of nature. Therefore a scientist cannot be inclined to believe that the course of events can be influenced by prayer, that is, by a supernaturally manifested wish.

However, we must concede that our actual knowledge of these forces is imperfect, so that in the end the belief in the existence of a final, ultimate spirit rests on a kind of faith. Such belief remains widespread even with the current achievements in science.

But also, everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that some spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe, one that is vastly superior to that of man. In this way the pursuit of science leads to a religious feeling of a special sort, which is surely quite different from the religiosity of someone more naive.

With cordial greetings,

yours A. Einstein

Tim, a good start, but you need to know he elaborated upon this topic.