Is there an after life.

I remember Tom Campbell saying that those we meet are not exactly the same as when we knew them, although they’d be close enough given the limited period NDErs have with them. He said they’re exactly the same with the one difference being that they had no free will. So if they’re replicas without free will I suppose that might make it possible to make them visible wherever their consciousness might be? 

Personally, I think that they’re there to ease the transition from one realm to the next. Whether ‘alive’ or ‘dead’.

 :l So they are just our creation?

What about brian cox and sean caroll with their LHC
Like one-two year ago the new is full of their prove(or some thing like that)

What about it?

What about it?

I suppose perhaps the LHC was connected with the search for the Higgs Boson. A particle which is supposed to give mass to everthing else.

But - it doesn't seem relevant to this discussion.

I suppose perhaps the LHC was connected with the search for the Higgs Boson. A particle which is supposed to give mass to everthing else.

But - it doesn't seem relevant to this discussion.

Though there was also Brian Cox searching for a physical explanation of consciousness throughout the energy range of colliding particles in the LHC. He didn't find it and therefore concluded that consciousness was non-physical.

Or something like that. Anyone know what he actually said?

I think we have already discussed the kind of logic that Cox subscribes to: that physicalism is absolute and that anything - such as spirit - should conform to the laws of physics. Here's a piece from The Independent newspaper:

Ghosts definitely don't exist because otherwise the Large Hadron Collider would have found them, claims Brian Cox

...

The project has seen a number of things, identifying how particles decay and picking up hints that there could be new and unknown particles. But it hasn't yet found even a sliver of proof that there is anything that could make up a ghost.

If ghosts existed, then they would need to be made purely of energy, since by their very definition they can't be made of matter. But if they were made only of energy, they would quickly dissipate, because the second law of thermodynamics proposes that energy is always lost to heat.

The only way that they would be able to avoid that would be to have an incoming source of their own spooky energy. But there is nothing to account for that in the standard model of physics or anything we've seen in the particle accelerator.

"If we want some sort of pattern that carries information about our living cells to persist then we must specify precisely what medium carries that pattern and how it interacts with the matter particles out of which our bodies are made," he said in a special edition of his podcast The Infinite Monkey Cage that focused on the paranormal. "We must, in other words, invent an extension to the Standard Model of Particle Physics that has escaped detection at the Large Hadron Collider. That’s almost inconceivable at the energy scales typical of the particle interactions in our bodies."

Guest Neil deGrasse Tyson checked whether Professor Cox was really claiming that the particle accelerator had actually disproved the existence of supernatural spirits.

“If I understand what you just declared, you just asserted that CERN, the European Center for Nuclear Research, disproved the existence of ghosts,” he asked. "Yes," replied Professor Cox.

Thank, that rings a bell. This is now echoing something in another thread. If Cox believes what he says, he's also disproved his own consciousness. From this point on he has no thoughts, no experiences, effectively he ceases to exist, except as a shell.

 :l So they are just our creation?

Well, if you consider ‘us’ part of God then that’s a possibility.

What about brian cox and sean caroll with their LHC
Like one-two year ago the new is full of their prove(or some thing like that)

You have to realize that just because the opinions of a few big name scientists (Carroll, Cox, Novella, Krauss, ...etc) are published on some mainstream websites, that doesn’t mean they are correct. Nowadays, materialism seems to be all the rage within the scientific community. Thankfully, members are starting to recognize its flaws and are breaking away.

As for whether or not there is life after death, the one thing that makes me believe there may be something more is that out of an ocean of knowledge, we know only a fraction of all there is to know.

Ika, Welcome to the forum!

Ika, Welcome to the forum!

Thank you for the kind welcome! I’ve been stalking this forum and similar ones for awhile now and I finally decided to join the community! I’m not much of a philosopher, but I’ll try my best!