IONS online ESP experiment

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Courtesy of the SPR Facebook page, here's an online ESP experiment from the Institute of Noetic Sciences:
https://www.research.net/r/LBCQX9Q

It sounds as though it's intended as a combined replication of the retroactive priming and retroactive facilitation of recall studies in Daryl Bem's "Feeling the Future".
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Thanks for sharing this, Chris. I'm interested in participating, but I'm having trouble interpreting one of the sentences on the front page: "You will not obtain individual results on your performance as the data will be analyzed for each person that ask you to do the experiment." For a start, it seems grammatically broken (perhaps a minimal correction is to add an "s" to "ask"), but more than that, I just can't make sense of it. How would they know who "asked" me to do the experiment, and why would that even be relevant? What if nobody asked and somebody simply found the experiment as the result of a Google search, etc?

Can you shed any light on this sentence, or should I just enter my name, click "I consent", and be done with it?
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(2018-09-20, 09:48 AM)Laird Wrote: Thanks for sharing this, Chris. I'm interested in participating, but I'm having trouble interpreting one of the sentences on the front page: "You will not obtain individual results on your performance as the data will be analyzed for each person that ask you to do the experiment." For a start, it seems grammatically broken (perhaps a minimal correction is to add an "s" to "ask"), but more than that, I just can't make sense of it. How would they know who "asked" me to do the experiment, and why would that even be relevant? What if nobody asked and somebody simply found the experiment as the result of a Google search, etc?

Can you shed any light on this sentence, or should I just enter my name, click "I consent", and be done with it?

I couldn't understand that either, unless that string of letters in the URL contains some information about where the link was first posted. But even then I agree it's difficult to see what sense it would make to analyse the data on that basis.

I also think people will be less likely to do the study if they aren't going to be shown their results.
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(2018-09-20, 09:56 AM)Chris Wrote: I couldn't understand that either, unless that string of letters in the URL contains some information about where the link was first posted. But even then I agree it's difficult to see what sense it would make to analyse the data on that basis.

Yes... it seems you're as perplexed as I am on this.

(2018-09-20, 09:56 AM)Chris Wrote: I also think people will be less likely to do the study if they aren't going to be shown their results.

Yes. I'm willing to participate anyway in the spirit of contributing to potentially valuable research but it would be a lot more attractive if personal feedback were given. Perhaps that's part of the study design though? Maybe they're trying to rule out certain psi effects by not providing personal feedback?
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(2018-09-20, 10:04 AM)Laird Wrote: Yes. I'm willing to participate anyway in the spirit of contributing to potentially valuable research but it would be a lot more attractive if personal feedback were given. Perhaps that's part of the study design though? Maybe they're trying to rule out certain psi effects by not providing personal feedback?

That thought did cross my mind. But I'd have thought the information content of an overall score would be rather low. Still, who knows?
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Hmm. It doesn't quite seem ready for prime time yet. When I enter my name, give consent, and click "Done", I'm redirected to a different website (psiresearch.org) which shows the message:

Quote:Destination
Unknown


Everything's working on our side, so the short link you clicked is either wrong or has been retired.

This happens whether I use my default browser (Firefox) or Google Chrome.

Are others having similar experiences or is it working for you guys?
(2018-09-20, 10:18 AM)Laird Wrote: Hmm. It doesn't quite seem ready for prime time yet. When I enter my name, give consent, and click "Done", I'm redirected to a different website (psiresearch.org) which shows the message:


This happens whether I use my default browser (Firefox) or Google Chrome.

Are others having similar experiences or is it working for you guys?

I just tried it, and got a timeout error after it tried to take me to the other site.
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(2018-09-20, 10:29 AM)Chris Wrote: I just tried it, and got a timeout error after it tried to take me to the other site.

It's working now.
(2018-09-20, 09:48 AM)Laird Wrote: Thanks for sharing this, Chris. I'm interested in participating, but I'm having trouble interpreting one of the sentences on the front page: "You will not obtain individual results on your performance as the data will be analyzed for each person that ask you to do the experiment." For a start, it seems grammatically broken (perhaps a minimal correction is to add an "s" to "ask"), but more than that, I just can't make sense of it. How would they know who "asked" me to do the experiment, and why would that even be relevant? What if nobody asked and somebody simply found the experiment as the result of a Google search, etc?

Can you shed any light on this sentence, or should I just enter my name, click "I consent", and be done with it?

The IONS newsletter that arrived in my inbox minutes ago explains:

Quote:Ever Wanted to Run Your Own Experiment?

IONS is conducting a replication of a popular experiment where we test if events in the future can influence the present. Here’s how it works...
...
Contact Nina Fry for more information and to enroll in this study.

Basically, IONS wants people to find participants for the experiment, and says that for recruiting 16 of them, the  recruiters will receive a $100 VISA gift card and a signed copy of Entangled Minds, by Dean Radin.

It's not stated in the ad, but I would imagine recruiters are limited to just 16 participants. Otherwise the potential for abuse could be quite high.
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(2018-09-20, 11:25 PM)Doug Wrote: Basically, IONS wants people to find participants for the experiment, and says that for recruiting 16 of them, the  recruiters will receive a $100 VISA gift card and a signed copy of Entangled Minds, by Dean Radin.

Thanks for explaining.

And please everybody remember to mention my name when participating! Wink
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