How Are UFOs Related to PSI?

I find it interesting that the human mind so easily can misremember events that happened. That perception is so malleable. What is up with that? I suppose scientists or those who research this stuff have a theory that it has some sort of evolutionary advantage?

When we 'incarnated, part of the physical reality game is to (nearly) completely forget who we actually are (Spirit). The spiritual  evo advantage is that we can view ourselves from an entirely different perspective.

The human mind is only capable of informing you of what has happened (perception). It has no function in what is colloquially termed 'memory". Think about it for a second.

We actually create the past, as well as the future, from the present. Because Now is the only time in which you actually ever really exist. When you say "I remember xyz" what timing is it? Now.

If you find yourself forgetting more and more, it is a fourth density symptom where you should now know that as you begin to live in the present, and not form connections to the 'future' and the 'past' – which are created from the present anyway – you will disassociate from needing to dredge up 'memories' of the past. You will simply know what you need to know, in the present, when you need to know it.

When we 'incarnated, part of the physical reality game is to (nearly) completely forget who we actually are (Spirit). The spiritual  evo advantage is that we can view ourselves from an entirely different perspective.

The human mind is only capable of informing you of what has happened (perception). It has no function in what is colloquially termed 'memory". Think about it for a second.

We actually create the past, as well as the future, from the present. Because Now is the only time in which you actually ever really exist. When you say "I remember xyz" what timing is it? Now.

If you find yourself forgetting more and more, it is a fourth density symptom where you should now know that as you begin to live in the present, and not form connections to the 'future' and the 'past' – which are created from the present anyway – you will disassociate from needing to dredge up 'memories' of the past. You will simply know what you need to know, in the present, when you need to know it.

Interesting, thanks Pssst. Will have to think about that in depth!

When we 'incarnated, part of the physical reality game is to (nearly) completely forget who we actually are (Spirit). The spiritual  evo advantage is that we can view ourselves from an entirely different perspective.

The human mind is only capable of informing you of what has happened (perception). It has no function in what is colloquially termed 'memory". Think about it for a second.

We actually create the past, as well as the future, from the present. Because Now is the only time in which you actually ever really exist. When you say "I remember xyz" what timing is it? Now.

If you find yourself forgetting more and more, it is a fourth density symptom where you should now know that as you begin to live in the present, and not form connections to the 'future' and the 'past' – which are created from the present anyway – you will disassociate from needing to dredge up 'memories' of the past. You will simply know what you need to know, in the present, when you need to know it.

Fourth density, yo!

When we 'incarnated, part of the physical reality game is to (nearly) completely forget who we actually are (Spirit). The spiritual  evo advantage is that we can view ourselves from an entirely different perspective.

The human mind is only capable of informing you of what has happened (perception). It has no function in what is colloquially termed 'memory". Think about it for a second.

We actually create the past, as well as the future, from the present. Because Now is the only time in which you actually ever really exist. When you say "I remember xyz" what timing is it? Now.

If you find yourself forgetting more and more, it is a fourth density symptom where you should now know that as you begin to live in the present, and not form connections to the 'future' and the 'past' – which are created from the present anyway – you will disassociate from needing to dredge up 'memories' of the past. You will simply know what you need to know, in the present, when you need to know it.

But we can say much more about memory than that. For instance, in what we would understand as past and future, past experiences affect future experiences. As you say all experience seems to be summed to the present, but patterns interfere with one another, probably coherently, that just means adding up, so that similar patterns add up. One could think of it a bit like stacking sheets of tracing paper with hand drawn patterns on them. Hold a stack of sheets upto the light, and the darkest areas will be those where most sections of drawings intersect, those regularities constrain your future experiences, by overwhelming future experiences (new sheets of tracing paper), where they are similar. The more similar, the worse (or better) things get. If patterns are too close, the old experiences will overwhelm the new experiences, one will experience what one has learnt to experience in the past.

There are lots of lovely examples, for instance, show a random collection of coloured, and black n white photo's to young people and old people (lying about what the experiment is really about), then later ask them questions about the photographs, and the young people will accurately remember which photo's were black and white, and which photo's were colour. However the old people will remember the photo's as if they were all in colour. For example, on a b&w photo of a baseball pitch, the old people remember the grass as green. They seem to have learnt in context, the pattern for grass, which is always associated with green, so when the B&W photo is recalled, all their past experiences cause the grass to be recalled as green, because the pattern is a close enough match, with little past experiences to interfere with the colour recollection, which is inaccurate, but clearly useful. One of the major problems with this sort of learning, seems to be the requirement to learn accurately throughout ones life, and not lie to oneself, because if one discounts experience in the past, in favour of ones bias/ego, then one can become trapped in that way of experiencing the world. One can bust out of those distorted ways of seeing the world if one really wants to, but we can't cut out the old patterns, there seems no mechanism to do so. One can only go back to the inaccurate space-time position (memory) and make new associations, a new pattern. So patterns can get bigger, one can't get rid of the old parts of the pattern, but if one keeps using the new pattern, the old pattern will become less powerful.

This is one of the reasons why I have enormous problems with mass pattern consumption by the public, patterns of sound, and vision are associated in a narrative for powerful learning via mass dissemination (TV, Billboards, Brands etc). If the patterns of association learnt through such methods are inaccurate, these inaccuracies will go on to dominate a persons way of experiencing the world in the future. A distortion that will need much interference to correct.

The problem is that such mass consumption of patterns gives enormous control over the 'group', by the 'individual'. It's a potential problem, as it seems in nature, the individual vs group has greater balance, such that neither can dominate the other. But man made mass produce patterns, with mass distribution of said patterns has the potential to be a real problem. In the future, I have little doubt this potential to mass disseminate biased patterns will have to be addressed in legislation, (or nature may respond anyway - possibly already is with autism, and dyslexia type changes in learning ).

@MaxB

If you wish to frame the conversation in linear terms, then it is appropriate to say the past creates the present and the present creates the future. I have no problem with that as this is what physical reality is all about. The illusion of time and space and the illusion of continuity of it.

Mechanically speaking, many in Spirit and more advanced physical and non-physical beings would say just the opposite. They understand the universe as one moment, Now, which cannot by definition have either a past or a future.

As to 'patterning', it is one of the limitations we accept when we incarnate in physical reality. Nonetheless, the functional understanding is that we don't actually remember anything, we choose parallel realities in which we can draw information and experiences of other beings, and vice-versa, from a web or network of interconnections.

Let's make this more difficult.  


We create physical reality by unconsciously selecting static frames from an infinite # of existences - analogous to a projector and a movie reel those selections are fueled by our beliefs (definitions). Just as the movie director, we choose which frames go where and in physical reality, they must be continuos or the movie makes no sense to us.

I have no problem with anyone who cannot or will not accept this premise, all of us are here with the limitations we choose to gain the experience we need.

I have to admit, though, it can get dicey when one switches back and forth from an operational understanding and a conversation that, in and of itself, is constrained by the limitations of space, time and continuity.

Wow, I almost agree with something Pssst said, maybe I've been away from the forum too long.

The only problem is that you cannot select something unconsciously. If you weren't aware of it, it cannot, by definition, be a choice.

Max_B's theory has a lot more going for it. It has a lot of explanatory power in many areas but not all. For example the phenomenon of repeating patterns in past life regressions make a lot more sense as being the person plugging into timespace patterns that are most similar to their own. Thus they are likely to experience more of what they've already experienced. Which in turn affects their attitude about life, and round and round it goes.

If people were truly creating their own reality I'm guessing a lot of bad, irrational stuff that we all don't like would stop existing. But it continues to exist, thus we are not in control of it.

Also the 'you create your own reality' meme is a very cosmopolitan belief that seems to get selectively... "forgotten"... whenever truly horrific things happen. I wonder if Junko Furuta or her family would humour such a concept.

If people were truly creating their own reality I'm guessing a lot of bad, irrational stuff that we all don't like would stop existing. But it continues to exist, thus we are not in control of it.

Having the capability of doing something doesn't imply necessarily being in control of that something. Particularly if we are taught to believe that we have neither.

@MaxB

If you wish to frame the conversation in linear terms, then it is appropriate to say the past creates the present and the present creates the future. I have no problem with that as this is what physical reality is all about. The illusion of time and space and the illusion of continuity of it.

Mechanically speaking, many in Spirit and more advanced physical and non-physical beings would say just the opposite. They understand the universe as one moment, Now, which cannot by definition have either a past or a future.

Past present future is just a perspective on information, and it's our way of understanding information, and I think our observations (facts) will turn out to be absolutely correct, even if they don't give us access to the full picture.

It's just that I suspect the current popular theories about how we join those observations together (the stories we tell ourselves about how our observations come about), will probably turn out to be rather naive.

I think that's because our observations, our everyday experiences, are probably the result obtained from the processing of fundamental information, and not the fundamental information itself (in it's pre-processed state if you will).

It seems obvious to me now that one cannot learn anything unless (at least) two of these fundamental informational building blocks interact to release information from each other. People talk about things as if they could be singular, that's how we describe the world, but anything that is described as being singular (exists in isolation) cannot really be like that. These singular things we give labels are formed as a result of (at least) two fundamental informational building blocks interacting.

At present I don't accept that anybody has at better handle on why I'm actually having this experience, I can see it's got something to do with what we call 'learning', but there are lot's of ideas, and really I think we're back to the tale of the blind men, and the elephant. People have different ideas, because of their own particular perspective, there is some of the truth within all these different perspectives. As there is some truth in your own ideas.