Hellish NDE from musician who had Covid

Check this out:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ID-19.html

Check this out:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ID-19.html

I've seen some horrible experiences from people who were ventilated in ICU during this crisis. I gather that happens quite a bit.


On a lighter side... after reading the article, which was quite funny...

He told The San Francisco Chronicle that the female devil 'morphed him into a Jabba the Hutt-like-monster who vomited blood until he had a heart attack'.

The experience has prompted the musician to re-evaluate his life. He says he has adopted a belief in a 'higher power' and has now given up hard alcohol and 'bong rips'. 

'I don't think Satan's quite as cool as I used to,' the Death Angel drummer stated.

The doctors treated him with hydroxychloroquine and remdesivir and flipped him onto his stomach for 18 hours a day in order to improve oxygen flow throughout his body.

'I woke up on the hospital bed with tubes coming in and out of me, and there was a nurse right there and my first words were, "Am I still in hell?" She ignored me,' he told The San Francisco Chronicle.

In the six weeks since, Carroll has completely changed his life. 

He says he will no longer smoke marijuana or indulge in hard alcohol - although he will continue to eat edibles and occasionally drink ciders.

there then followed some very funny comments...

Who would have thought that anesthetizing the brain for years isn't a good thing?

Still listens to Satanic music. Devil should have never let you go.

"To many whackos on here that need to have an intervention and therapy."

"I believe him!"

"voracious souls"

"No wonder Trump stopped taking hydroxychloroquine"

I'm sorry, but after reading the article and the last comment... I had tears streaming down my face.     

I'm only halfway through those comments... funniest thing I've read in months...

I looked up a few different sources for this event, there isn't a great deal of difference in terms of detail. It isn't easy to construct a narrative, a sequence of events occurring over a period of time. Everything is lumped together in the middle without much clarity.

I think that's reasonable, there probably wasn't a lot of clarity, at least not when trying to recall things afterwards.

One thing I did wonder about was, how much was NDE and how much a kind of delirium.

Separately, I came across a mention today of delirium.

In a growing number of patients, the brain has also become a serious cause for concern among senior doctors who've been exchanging information on a daily basis for weeks. "We now know that large numbers of patients are having significant inflammation of the brain," observes Hugh Montgomery.

"The inflammation presents with everything from delirium and confusion, even more than we would normally expect in ICU, to fits and what we call diffuse encephalitis."

"That means some people not waking up properly after being taken off a ventilator."

source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/52760992

The problem there is that BBC reports tend to underplay or simply not acknowledge any spiritual experiences, hence it's hard to interpret such comments.

I think (based on what people have told me) there is hell and associated places. My bet would be that, as Typoz alluded to, this guy may have only suffered an intensive care psychosis, but who knows.

Do spiritual beings, even obnoxious ones resembling Jabba the Hut, have myocardial infarctions ?

I think (based on what people have told me) there is hell and associated places. My bet would be that, as Typoz alluded to, this guy may have only suffered an intensive care psychosis, but who knows.

Do spiritual beings, even obnoxious ones resembling Jabba the Hut, have myocardial infarctions ?

Well I would tentatively say the female devil might have been one of the medical staff he connected with. He has already told us the Jabba-the-Hutt-like-monster is himself. We are told that his lungs were apparently drained of large amounts of fluid... which might account for the "...vomited blood..." bit. At some point his heart stopped. In his narrative this occurred after his lungs were drained.

It sounds like it might be an NDE to me... (i.e. he's experienced himself via a third party/parties perception) ...and importantly, although a repelling experience (as opposed to an attractive experience), the experience has repelled him - made him change his behavior - back toward the group norm (group average).

Well I would tentatively say the female devil might have been one of the medical staff he connected with. He has already told us the Jabba-the-Hutt-like-monster is himself. We are told that his lungs were apparently drained of large amounts of fluid... which might account for the "...vomited blood..." bit. At some point his heart stopped. In his narrative this occurred after his lungs were drained.

It sounds like it might be an NDE to me... (i.e. he's experienced himself via a third party/parties perception) ...and importantly, although a repelling experience (as opposed to an attractive experience), the experience has repelled him - made him change his behavior - back toward the group norm (group average).

"the female devil might have been one of the medical staff he connected with"

Reminds me of an NDE (false) in Peter Fenwicks book, where the patient thought he was being roasted alive in hell. In actual fact, he was wrapped in tin foil to keep him warm and I think he may have been turned regularly, or something like that.