Have we evolved to construct reality?

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(2019-08-20, 04:19 PM)Max_B Wrote: You might say that, many people do, but I’m afraid like most people, you don’t actually accept the new situation that exists since the 1920’s

Things don’t behave exactly ‘like’ there is an objective reality independent of the observer... we see the explicit everyday effects of QM all the time... the reflection of yourself in shop window as you walk by, the moving colours playing across the surface of a soap bubble... most things about nature are explained more accurately by QM, right up to the very big scale... it’s just the calculations are too hard to do for bigger systems, and experiments get harder for bigger systems. But the principles apply to bigger systems, just as much as for smaller systems.

This is actually the better (more accurate) way to understand how nature works... Nature generally behaves according to QM, as if there is *not* an objective reality which is independent of the observer.

And that’s also so important, considering the topics we discuss on here...

Not if you're a driver in a traffic jam on the freeway, or if you're playing a game of golf or tennis, or if you're an electronics engineer designing an audio amplifier, or for that matter if you're a watch expert designing a mechanical watch movement. Or any of a million other occupations and situations.
(2019-08-21, 07:08 PM)nbtruthman Wrote: Not if you're a driver in a traffic jam on the freeway, or if you're playing a game of golf or tennis, or if you're an electronics engineer designing an audio amplifier, or for that matter if you're a watch expert designing a mechanical watch movement. Or any of a million other occupations and situations.

I think that you're focusing on the probabilistic aspect as a kind random chaos, while Max [if I understand him] is talking about probability resolving itself into the stable life we experience.

For example he mentions the reflection you see in the window [while also seen what lies beyond the glass] - that's a result, IIRC, of 1 out of 4 photons bouncing back. That's probabilistic but stable.
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A Mathematical Model Unlocks the Secrets of Vision

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Quote:This is the great mystery of human vision: Vivid pictures of the world appear before our mind’s eye, yet the brain’s visual system receives very little information from the world itself. Much of what we “see” we conjure in our heads.

“A lot of the things you think you see you’re actually making up,” said Lai-Sang Young, a mathematician at New York University. “You don’t actually see them.”

Yet the brain must be doing a pretty good job of inventing the visual world, since we don’t routinely bump into doors. Unfortunately, studying anatomy alone doesn’t reveal how the brain makes these images up any more than staring at a car engine would allow you to decipher the laws of thermodynamics.

New research suggests mathematics is the key...
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


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