(2018-02-13, 02:14 PM)Doug Wrote: Mick West, Ian Goddard and others have spent the past couple of months gaining an understanding of the computer imaging artifacts observed in the "Gimbal" video. While the discussion has often been quite technical, their progress in explaining the artifacts can be followed in this thread at Metabunk:
https://www.metabunk.org/nyt-gimbal-vide...ect.t9333/
Without lots more evidence from the incident (more video footage, radar evidence, etc.), along with contradicting testimony from the pilots, I'd say the Gimbal video has been sufficiently debunked as evidence for UFOs.
Thanks for that link. It's interesting that in that discussion there is a suggestion that the accompanying audio recording may be fake. The audio - with its reference to there being a "whole fleet" of objects - does seem difficult to reconcile with the distant jet engine explanation.
If the audio were fake, what would that tell us about "To The Stars"?
Courtesy of the Daily Grail, here's a Wired article on Robert Bigelow and his paranormal and UFO research interests:
https://www.wired.com/story/inside-rober...with-ufos/
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(2018-02-13, 07:13 PM)Chris Wrote: If the audio were fake, what would that tell us about "To The Stars"?
It tells us that chasing nuts and bolts answers to the so-called UFO phenomenon hasn't worked for 70 years, why should it now? If that is of a particular interest to an individual, fine, but expect more of the same...nothing of much value.
The Daily Grail reports more of the same from "To The Stars" - a third piece of infrared footage, entitled "GO FAST":
https://www.dailygrail.com/2018/03/third...ufo-group/
Here is the reaction so far at Metabunk. As the title of the discussion thread indicates, their working hypothesis is that the object is not really moving particularly fast, and may be a bird:
https://www.metabunk.org/go-fast-footage...ird.t9569/
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Which, may or may not, be an improvement of the planet venus, or a weather ballon.
I'm considering the opinion that the whole enterprise is a folk dance ,that idont know the all the steps to
Quote:Many think the government is about to disclose what it knows about UFOs. Others believe the government is doing everything in its power to keep the UFO reality a secret. The truth is that those who control the UFO secret are doing neither. The secret-keepers are gradually disclosing this information via an acclimatization process, based on advice given by military think tanks that have looked at the issue. At this talk, the reader will learn how long this disclosure effort has been going on and how this covert plan is being carried out.
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The Daily Grail reports that "LasVegas Now" has published what it claims to be a confidential official report on the "Tic Tac" UFO footage:
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/i-team-e...1187688105
But posters at Metabunk aren't convinced it's genuine:
https://www.metabunk.org/2004-uss-nimitz...190/page-8
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New article and angle over at Newsweek:
Pentagon’s Secret UFO Program Investigated Poltergeist Connection to Alien Mystery
By Andrew Whalen On 5/29/18
Quote:The investigative “I-Team” for CBS affiliate KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, NV has brought forward new documents related to the secret Pentagon UFO program first revealed by the New York Times in December. But even stranger than the documents, which delved into theoretical warp drive and extra-dimensional technologies, was the response provided to KLAS-TV by an unnamed “senior manager” within the program, who connected the Pentagon’s UFO program to poltergeists, “invisible entities” and “bizarre creatures.”
The new statement from BAASS (Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies) to KLAS-TV indicates the team contracted by the Pentagon delved into phenomena far beyond the UFO purview indicated in the NYT’s original reveal, in some ways continuing the paranormal research begun by founder Richard Bigelow in the 90s.
“The investigations by BAASS provided new lines of evidence showing that the UFO phenomenon was a lot more than nuts and bolts machines that interacted with military aircraft,” the senior manager said. “The phenomenon also involved a whole panoply of diverse activity that included bizarre creatures, poltergeist activity, invisible entities, orbs of light, animal and human injuries and much more.”
Follow the title link to get the rest of the story.
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Unfounded but predictable swipe at Puthoff:
Quote:Puthoff, also one of the sources for the initial NYT disclosure, has a long history of promoting pseudoscience—endorsing psychic fraud Uri Geller and coming to the defense of L. Ron Hubbard's E-meter in a 1974 document Scientology developed for use by the government. Puthoff’s research team, EarthTech International, was subcontracted by Bigelow to write the recently revealed DIA reports.
Amusing reaction to this at the bottom of the article (though in need of spelling lessons).
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Potentially important news here.
Jeremy Corbell has interviewed "Trevor", a radar operator who witnessed the 2004 "tic tac" Nimitz event (posted June 13):
Red Pill Junkie at the The Daily Grail explains some of the significance here:
Quote:Trevor claims the unidentified targets were moving so fast they looked to be “jumping around†on his radar screen (...)
(A)fter the F-18’s returned to the Nimitz, he was able to watch a video recorded by one of the planes’ cameras during a screening of it along with a few other officers at the carrier’s combat direction center CDC, and that it was a different video than the one we’ve all seen ever since we learned of the secret Pentagon UFO program in December of 2017.
According to Corbell’s anonymous source, that other video was ‘much clearer’ than the ones released so far by the DoD through Tom DeLonge’s To the Stars Academy. It showed the F-18’s in pursuit of the unknown craft and the object mimicking the movements of the jets as if ‘mocking’ their flight capabilities; after which the UFO disappeared off sight by performing an ‘instant’ vertical lift-off.
Furthermore, Trevor also claims the object he watched in that video was not shaped like a ‘Tic Tac’, but instead had the characteristics of a classic flying saucer: dome on top with a flat bottom.
If what this source is claiming is true, then it would mean that so far To the Stars has been using a ‘white-washed’ version of the 2004 Nimitz video, one that is not as convincing or ‘life-changing’ as the one Trevor got to observe –now of course a fair question for ‘Trevor’ would be WHY he was allowed to watch that footage in the first place. Where were all the nepharious g-men wearing flashy badges and dark sunglasses, who are always giving threats and reminding personnel about security clearances and ‘need-to-know’ protocols?
Read the full article here:
https://www.dailygrail.com/2018/06/jerem...ufo-event/
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