Emanuel Swedenborg's Heaven and Hell with Jonathan Rose

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Quote:Jonathan Rose, PhD, is series editor for the New Century Edition of Emanuel Swedenborg's theological writings. He is author of The Message of Love in the Ten Commandments and Swedenborg's Garden of Theology. He is also a contributor to A Lexicon to the Latin Text of the Theological Writings of Emanuel Swedenborg.

Here he points out that Swedenborg, an eighteenth century scientist, engaged in lengthy excursions into the afterlife throughout the last three decades of his life – as the result of a spiritual awakening. Dr. Rose describes Swedenborg's visions of angels and demons and how they align with or conflict with the conventional Christian theology of his era. He explains the conflict we feel between the desires of our inner and outer nature.
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


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That is a great interview! It is interesting that his description of the afterlife is very consistent with Jurgen Ziewe's description of the afterlife. I hope that isn't just because JZ read ES!

Jonathan Rose has a very clear and unaffected way of speaking about the subject.
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(2022-04-14, 04:09 PM)Sciborg_S_Patel Wrote:

 Very interesting. Thank you. I know Jeffrey Mishlove is popular but i find his manner a bit creepy. To his credit he lets this guy speak and I found a lot that resonates for me.
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(2022-04-15, 04:39 PM)David001 Wrote: Jonathan Rose has a very clear and unaffected way of speaking about the subject.
Jonathan Rose's understated presence was a contrast to the media professional, Mishlove.  I feel that Jeffrey is practiced and formal, but he is deeply engaged. 

Folks here talk about veridical information that corroborates a Psi event.  Having read of the "the fire in Stockholm", if Kant's version of events is correct, it stands as one of the clearest cases of "remote viewing" in history.  It involved Swedenborg, a Governor, a leading merchant, 14 other guests and a royal courier.

Of, course it is attacked by skeptics, but enough accounts and documents exist to make it a solid data point.

Quote:Swedenborg's vision soon became known in the city, located about 250 miles from Stockholm.  Next morning Swedenborg was summoned to the Governor and questioned about the disaster.  He described precisely, how it had begun and ended, and how long it has lasted.  Many were troubled on account of their friends and property.  The letter (Kant's) continues:
     On Tuesday morning a royal courier arrived at the governor's, with the sad news of the fire, of the loss which it had occasioned, and of the houses it had damaged and ruined.  These accounts did not differ in the least from what Swedenborg had communicated....

The different versions of the incident, as recorded by R. I. Tafel, agree in their main points with Kant's account.  Afterwards, Swedenborg himself confirmed his vision to his friend Christopher Springer, living in London.  Another Swede in London, Erik Bergstrom, also heard Swedenborg affirming the course of events. - Lars Bergquist
 
Having Immanuel Kant lead the investigation, is like Daniel Dennett going after government remote viewing activity and coming back saying - yup, don't believe it, but it looks like it happened.
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