Are you interested in the scientific investigation of psi?

I'm interested in the scientific investigation of psi, but I've come to a point where I've examined those aspects of psi I find interesting to the point where I've satisfied myself I can't go any further (at least not without spending lots of time and money) and so I'm sort of waiting for the next "Big Thing" to break and we'll get a somewhat replicable example of psi, probably Dean Radin's presentiment protocol, but who knows. I think Will's prediction of future events is pretty much how I feel things will pan out.

I'm interested in the scientific investigation of psi, but I've come to a point where I've examined those aspects of psi I find interesting to the point where I've satisfied myself I can't go any further (at least not without spending lots of time and money) and so I'm sort of waiting for the next "Big Thing" to break and we'll get a somewhat replicable example of psi, probably Dean Radin's presentiment protocol, but who knows. I think Will's prediction of future events is pretty much how I feel things will pan out.

Thanks. The frustrating thing is that - probably in common with many others - I thought that moment had come when Daryl Bem published "Feeling the Future" nearly ten years ago. I don't think it's true to say that all attempts at replication of his work have failed, but I also don't think it has been replicated as it should have been if it were a "well behaved" effect.

Perhaps we are stuck with something that sometimes produces conventionally inexplicable results, but doesn't do so replicably?

Thanks. The frustrating thing is that - probably in common with many others - I thought that moment had come when Daryl Bem published "Feeling the Future" nearly ten years ago. I don't think it's true to say that all attempts at replication of his work have failed, but I also don't think it has been replicated as it should have been if it were a "well behaved" effect.

Perhaps we are stuck with something that sometimes produces conventionally inexplicable results, but doesn't do so replicably?

Perhaps the sometimes results are do to the desire to show positive evidence when there's nothing to be found.

Perhaps the sometimes results are do to the desire to show positive evidence when there's nothing to be found.

Did you vote in the poll yet?

Perhaps the sometimes results are do to the desire to show positive evidence when there's nothing to be found.

If you mean fraud, admittedly it can be difficult to rule out, and has undeniably happened several times. But personally I don't find it satisfactory just to attribute to fraud everything that can't be explained otherwise.

If you mean fraud, admittedly it can be difficult to rule out, and has undeniably happened several times. But personally I don't find it satisfactory just to attribute to fraud everything that can't be explained otherwise.

I had many things in mind but not fraud.

I had many things in mind but not fraud.

Well, the cases I was talking about were the ones for which no plausible conventional explanation has been offered, apart from fraud.

Well, the cases I was talking about were the ones for which no plausible conventional explanation has been offered, apart from fraud.

I have no cases in mind. What I do have in mind is persons will do what it takes to see the outcome that want.

I have no cases in mind. What I do have in mind is persons will do what it takes to see the outcome that want.

So let's be concrete. If there's a conventional explanation for the results of the Global Consciousness Project - one that doesn't involve fraud - what is it? What did Roger Nelson do - non-fraudulently - to get the outcome he wanted?

Here's the thread:
https://psiencequest.net/forums/thread-t...ss-project

So let's be concrete. If there's a conventional explanation for the results of the Global Consciousness Project - one that doesn't involve fraud - what is it? What did Roger Nelson do - non-fraudulently - to get the outcome he wanted?

Here's the thread:
https://psiencequest.net/forums/thread-t...ss-project

Motivated Reasoning
Cognitive Bias
(avoiding) Cognitive Dissonance 
Principle of Least Effort
Finding meaning (being apart of something greater then themselves. Purpose)
You see the subjects of interest for most members are at their root existential. To dissuade someone that humans don't matter, they personally don't matter is for virtually all humans a bitter pill to swallow. That may be the real reality though.