(2017-10-14, 09:32 AM)Doppelgänger Wrote: Okay then. I was simply trying to start a conversation (since I remembered your posts on Skeptiko), but I suppose this was not the way to go about it.
But best of luck to you.
Sorry, took me awhile to get back to this. Dreamsoap scolded me for "being a dick" and explained what you were probably actually asskiong.
I'm really used to people trying to shove their personal ideology down my throat and all of those ideologies involve their own personal concept of objective morality so I'm pretty sensitive to anything that looks like one of those arguments. But I guess that's not what you were doing.
In any case, the reason the "adds up to zero" and "in the middle" stuff don't contradict works like this.
Whatever anyone does in their life, no matter how incredible, will eventually become irrelevant and be forgotten sometime in the future. this is true for all events, doesn't matter what they are, have the largest impact at the time and places they originated, and then ripple out getting weaker and weaker until they get subsumed by some other, more current, more relevant ripple. Sure whatever foundation they laid is still around, but after awhile it's no longer a foundation, it's just "how things have always been."
Something wiped out the dinosaurs, not really sure what, but it doesn't really matter because as far as any of us are concerned there has never not been a time without dinosaurs. It has zero relevance in the average person or animals day to day life.
So if this is the case then nothing I or anyone else does can ever have permanent, objective, significance or value. It all eventually adds up to zero. So whatever I'm doing, I'm doing for me, I might say or think or feel like I'm doing it for "the world" or whatever, but the reality is it's just because I want to. It would be narccissistic of me to believe that my actions are somehow of objective and thus "infinite" importance and believe that people should care or know that I even existed thousands of years after I'm dead regardless of how much I accomplish.