A virtually Impossible Universe

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I hope I am not the only one who can understand this but I was thinking a lot about it on my way to work this morning.  It's just a loose idea at the moment.

The universe is a virtually impossible anomaly that has 0 dimensions.  It is like an infinitely small pinprick with regards both space and time and because it has 0 dimensions, it is both infinite and eternal.  The unravelling of this universe into pieces of matter and linear time is what we call consciousness.  It is neither percieved by nor created by consciousness, it actually is consciousness and matter and consciousness are thus co-dependent and have eternally existed and will eternally exist.

I hope it doesn't sound too wacko and I would be really glad to hear anybody's views and ideas on this.
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Not to force words into your mouth but are you thinking the universe is "non-spatial" and "a-temporal" (two ideas I admit having difficulty understanding) rather than zero-dimensional?

I guess it's hard for me to really see what a Zero-D point would be outside of mathematical abstraction?
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(2017-09-08, 05:55 PM)Sciborg_S_Patel Wrote: Not to force words into your mouth but are you thinking the universe is "non-spatial" and "a-temporal" (two ideas I admit having difficulty understanding) rather than zero-dimensional?

I guess it's hard for me to really see what a Zero-D point would be outside of mathematical abstraction?

I'm sure that is what I mean but what would be the difference between that and 0D?  I'm not up on the science but when I try to "see" 0D, I don't see nothing, I see an infinity of possibilities.  Such may tie in with QM somewhere along the line but maybe that's just wishful thinking.

Another idea I had today was that our wish to find the beginning of the universe comes from us being too used to creating borders and boundaries to separate everything in order to understand things.  Could we understand the universe as eternal in both directions better if we didn't have that faculty?
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(2017-09-09, 11:09 AM)Brian Wrote: I'm sure that is what I mean but what would be the difference between that and 0D?  I'm not up on the science but when I try to "see" 0D, I don't see nothing, I see an infinity of possibilities.  Such may tie in with QM somewhere along the line but maybe that's just wishful thinking.

Another idea I had today was that our wish to find the beginning of the universe comes from us being too used to creating borders and boundaries to separate everything in order to understand things.  Could we understand the universe as eternal in both directions better if we didn't have that faculty?

Check out Eric Weiss' ideas on Space, I think you guys might be saying similar interesting things with different words?

Quote:....Let’s say, for example, that one of you was to ask me a question that I couldn’t immediately answer, and that reminded me of some disastrous occasion in the past when I gave a bad lecture, and suddenly I became very insecure. That disastrous past experience would be having a direct causal influence on the present moment. That past moment is much further away in mathematical spacetime than, say, the experiences that I had today at breakfast. But it is much closer to me in the intensity of its causal effect.

F. I want to suggest – this is just a suggestion because to develop this idea fully would take a long time – that our perceptions are ordered in terms of the mathematical space of physics, but that our memories – which are also direct causal interactions among occasions, are ordered in terms of a spacetime in which distance is defined by morphic resonance. I remember, or I am causally effected by, or I extend over an experience in the past insofar as that past experience has a morphic resonance with the present moment.

G. This spacetime, a spacetime in which distance is defined in terms of morphic resonance instead of being defined in terms of mathematical distance, is the spacetime of the astral world, or of that trans-physical world which is closest to the physical.


H. When we die, we withdraw from the mathematical spacetime of the perceptual world, but we continue to exist in the subtle spacetime which we already glimpse in the ordering of our personal memories.


I. I hope that this gives you just a glimpse of how a world of actual occasions, in which spacetime is inseparable from consciousness, and in which memory, efficient causation and extension are intimately interrelated, opens up the possibility of defining a spacetime structure within which afterlife experiences can take place.
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(2017-09-08, 04:07 PM)Brian Wrote: I hope I am not the only one who can understand this but I was thinking a lot about it on my way to work this morning.  It's just a loose idea at the moment.

The universe is a virtually impossible anomaly that has 0 dimensions.  It is like an infinitely small pinprick with regards both space and time and because it has 0 dimensions, it is both infinite and eternal.  The unravelling of this universe into pieces of matter and linear time is what we call consciousness.  It is neither percieved by nor created by consciousness, it actually is consciousness and matter and consciousness are thus co-dependent and have eternally existed and will eternally exist.

I hope it doesn't sound too wacko and I would be really glad to hear anybody's views and ideas on this.

It's not clear why you think the universe has zero dimension?
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(2017-09-09, 07:23 PM)Max_B Wrote: It's not clear why you think the universe has zero dimension?

Because however I think of the universe I cannot see its existence as possible except as a mental simulation based on information that has no dimensions.
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(2017-09-09, 04:52 PM)Sciborg_S_Patel Wrote: Check out Eric Weiss' ideas on Space, I think you guys might be saying similar interesting things with different words?

That is so typical.  I come up with an idea of my own that I think is unique and later find out that somebody else has already come up with it and developed it further.  Sad   I'm going to have to look into this morphic resonance idea.  It might be workable.
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(2017-09-10, 11:28 AM)Brian Wrote: Because however I think of the universe I cannot see its existence as possible except as a mental simulation based on information that has no dimensions.

Gonna push you a bit... because I think it's useful to ask you to dig deeper... I get the first part of your reply, but you've left me with the same question really... for some reason, because you believe your reality is a mental simulation, you've come to the belief that it's based on "...information that has no dimensions...". What I'm trying to get at is your reasoning why it has zero dimensions? You obviously think this is the case, but there must be something that has lead to that way of thinking.
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(2017-09-10, 12:59 PM)Max_B Wrote: Gonna push you a bit... because I think it's useful to ask you to dig deeper... I get the first part of your reply, but you've left me with the same question really... for some reason, because you believe your reality is a mental simulation, you've come to the belief that it's based on "...information that has no dimensions...". What I'm trying to get at is your reasoning why it has zero dimensions? You obviously think this is the case, but there must be something that has lead to that way of thinking.

I don't really think this is the case, as I said in my OP, it's just a loose idea at the moment.  It is often hard to explain how a thought came about but I will try.  I was thinking about how something could come out of nothing and my brain told me that both something and nothing are logically impossible.  Of course, something must be possible because here it is, so what is it and how did it come about? Maybe the universe is a kind of anomaly that  happened all at once - an infinitely brief spark in the fabric of nothingness.  Darn, I can't explain any of this! Sad  It's what my brain is doing but I can't explain it logically or coherently - sorry Max - I tried.
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(2017-09-10, 06:06 PM)Brian Wrote: Darn, I can't explain any of this! Sad  It's what my brain is doing but I can't explain it logically or coherently - sorry Max - I tried.

No problem...
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