Christof Koch on NDEs

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I had decided to email Dr Kelly himself about the article and how Koch seems to have suddenly changed his ways. Dr Kelly says he's happy Koch is taking NDEs seriously, but not seriously enough, and is wilfully ignoring aspects of evidence that don't fit his outdated theories. According to Dr Kelly, this confused him since Koch was given a copy of his book Irreducible Mind by a colleague, so Kelly is suspicious that Koch even read it. The confusing part is that Koch definitely did abandon conventional physicalism according to his autobiography Consciousness: Confessions of a Romantic Reductionist. 

Kelly too is baffled by this unexplained return to previous ways of thinking. He suspects, like some of us here, that maybe Koch's colleagues pressured him into revoking his status as a near-panpsychist and gave him harsh criticism for his previous statements on consciousness 

I've also noticed that Michael Egnor has written his own article on MindMatters responding to Koch, getting more of the facts right about NDEs and pointing out the flaws of Koch's arguments. Although I don't fully trust Egnor since I'm aware he's pretty biased, but he at least writes an article that's more accurate about NDEs. I recognise that his bias does not play as much of a role here either.
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Christof Koch on NDEs - by OmniVersalNexus - 2020-05-22, 08:55 AM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by nbtruthman - 2020-05-22, 11:42 AM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by tim - 2020-05-22, 01:44 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by Max_B - 2020-05-22, 02:07 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by OmniVersalNexus - 2020-05-22, 02:35 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by Ninshub - 2020-05-22, 06:31 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by stephenw - 2020-05-22, 06:46 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by OmniVersalNexus - 2020-05-22, 07:05 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by nbtruthman - 2020-05-22, 09:00 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by nbtruthman - 2020-05-22, 11:15 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by tim - 2020-05-23, 10:31 AM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by stephenw - 2020-05-23, 07:43 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by nbtruthman - 2020-05-28, 01:51 AM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by stephenw - 2020-05-28, 06:35 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by OmniVersalNexus - 2020-05-27, 10:54 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by OmniVersalNexus - 2020-05-31, 08:51 AM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by tim - 2020-05-31, 07:09 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by nbtruthman - 2020-06-01, 01:07 AM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by Smithy - 2020-06-01, 02:20 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by stephenw - 2020-06-01, 02:46 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by nbtruthman - 2020-06-01, 04:54 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by stephenw - 2020-06-02, 01:10 AM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by tim - 2020-06-01, 03:19 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by tim - 2020-06-01, 11:21 AM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by Smithy - 2020-06-01, 03:43 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by tim - 2020-06-01, 04:24 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by nbtruthman - 2020-06-01, 07:37 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by Typoz - 2020-06-01, 07:50 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by Smithy - 2020-06-02, 01:49 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by tim - 2020-06-02, 03:41 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by Smithy - 2020-06-03, 10:07 AM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by tim - 2020-06-03, 12:05 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by Stan Woolley - 2020-06-02, 03:46 PM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by Smithy - 2020-06-03, 10:08 AM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by OmniVersalNexus - 2020-06-06, 10:02 AM
RE: Christof Koch on NDEs - by tim - 2020-06-06, 12:22 PM

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