Consciousness during CPR

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(2019-12-20, 11:38 PM)tim Wrote: Max said > "I'm just being accurate..."

No, Max, it's me that's being accurate, whereas you're just trying to open a window of opportunity (for yourself ?) in the pattern of burst suppression (used in neurosurgery to routinely flatten brainwaves). 

Even Gerry Woerlee accepts that burst suppression eliminates the possibility of any experience. He couldn't do anything else, because it's a fact.

This is where I find these arguments a bit confusing.

Isn't what you're arguing that burst suppression eliminates the possibility of any experience on the standard materialist assumption that mind is entirely generated by brain activity?

But NDE proponents don't accept that assumption, and argue that experience is possible under burst suppression. The problem is that under other assumptions the possibilities become far less clear. One has to avoid using materialist assumptions to argue for one non-materialist hypothesis (survival) over another (psi).
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Consciousness during CPR - by sbu - 2019-12-14, 08:58 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Laird - 2019-12-14, 09:29 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by sbu - 2019-12-14, 10:03 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-14, 12:49 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by fls - 2019-12-15, 04:25 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-15, 11:28 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Laird - 2019-12-14, 11:14 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Typoz - 2019-12-14, 01:58 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-14, 04:09 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by sbu - 2019-12-14, 09:59 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-15, 04:54 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-15, 11:35 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by sbu - 2019-12-27, 12:24 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-27, 01:33 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-27, 02:51 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by fls - 2019-12-27, 03:19 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-27, 04:15 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-27, 04:59 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-27, 10:46 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-28, 01:58 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-28, 02:45 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-28, 03:36 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-28, 04:31 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-28, 05:31 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by sbu - 2019-12-14, 10:07 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-14, 10:47 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-15, 05:26 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Laird - 2019-12-14, 10:18 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by sbu - 2019-12-14, 10:29 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Laird - 2019-12-14, 10:40 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-14, 10:52 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by fls - 2019-12-15, 04:12 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by fls - 2019-12-15, 02:27 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-16, 06:27 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by fls - 2019-12-16, 08:15 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-17, 06:29 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Laird - 2019-12-17, 09:56 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-17, 06:10 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by fls - 2019-12-17, 03:07 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-17, 05:37 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by fls - 2019-12-17, 06:29 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-17, 06:44 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by fls - 2019-12-17, 07:44 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-18, 02:30 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by fls - 2019-12-18, 05:21 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-18, 09:18 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by fls - 2019-12-19, 12:47 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-19, 02:18 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by fls - 2019-12-19, 03:38 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Raf999 - 2019-12-17, 07:18 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-17, 07:24 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by fls - 2019-12-17, 07:54 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Will - 2019-12-18, 12:18 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Raf999 - 2019-12-18, 09:48 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-18, 03:47 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by fls - 2019-12-18, 05:54 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-18, 07:48 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by letseat - 2019-12-19, 08:43 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Raf999 - 2019-12-19, 11:13 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Will - 2019-12-19, 12:04 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Silence - 2019-12-19, 02:50 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-19, 02:59 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by fls - 2019-12-19, 03:39 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Will - 2019-12-19, 07:16 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by letseat - 2019-12-20, 10:00 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Raf999 - 2019-12-20, 12:22 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-20, 02:02 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Raf999 - 2019-12-20, 04:13 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-20, 05:39 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by sbu - 2019-12-20, 05:31 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-20, 05:51 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by sbu - 2019-12-20, 06:22 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-20, 07:10 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-20, 10:13 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-20, 10:27 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-20, 10:58 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-20, 11:38 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-21, 07:38 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-21, 04:46 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-21, 06:05 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-21, 06:31 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-21, 07:10 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-21, 07:37 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-21, 08:04 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-21, 08:18 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Chris - 2019-12-22, 09:07 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Raf999 - 2019-12-21, 03:19 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-21, 04:22 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-21, 06:21 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-21, 06:32 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-21, 07:11 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-21, 07:38 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-21, 07:57 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-21, 08:21 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-21, 08:26 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-21, 11:18 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-22, 09:33 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by letseat - 2019-12-24, 06:06 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-24, 06:46 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Will - 2019-12-20, 06:01 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Max_B - 2019-12-20, 10:02 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Steve001 - 2019-12-21, 01:22 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Raf999 - 2019-12-22, 04:47 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-22, 05:33 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Raf999 - 2019-12-22, 09:22 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-22, 10:23 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Raf999 - 2019-12-22, 11:31 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-23, 01:47 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Raf999 - 2019-12-23, 03:58 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Ika Musume - 2019-12-23, 04:19 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Raf999 - 2019-12-23, 05:43 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Ika Musume - 2019-12-23, 06:14 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-23, 04:49 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2019-12-23, 03:15 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Typoz - 2019-12-23, 09:03 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Sciborg_S_Patel - 2019-12-23, 08:51 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Typoz - 2019-12-24, 05:57 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by letseat - 2019-12-24, 06:10 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Typoz - 2019-12-24, 06:34 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Vy Chấn Hải - 2019-12-25, 11:45 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Vy Chấn Hải - 2019-12-24, 05:14 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Typoz - 2019-12-24, 05:20 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Vy Chấn Hải - 2019-12-24, 05:43 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Raf999 - 2019-12-24, 05:53 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by Vy Chấn Hải - 2019-12-24, 06:13 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by fls - 2019-12-27, 11:47 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by sbu - 2019-12-27, 12:00 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-27, 01:02 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by sbu - 2019-12-28, 01:56 AM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-28, 02:09 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by fls - 2019-12-27, 03:30 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by tim - 2019-12-28, 05:52 PM
RE: Consciousness during CPR - by fls - 2019-12-29, 04:50 AM

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