(2017-09-28, 01:55 AM)Max_B Wrote: [ -> ]Sociopolitically divisive... a lovely way to dump any topics your biased against. There is no way I'm going to continue membership of a homophobic forum, who only tolerates homosexuality if it remains hidden and unmentionable, singled out with particular significance for this treatment.
It's honestly your own problem if you can't possibly see a reason that having that interview here wouldn't be desirable to someone outside of them being homophobic. That's just a patently ridiculous notion.
People have listed good reasons here... it's an issue that lots of people feel is extremely unreasonable and damaging. Just because you don't accept those reasons as adequate doesn't mean it's reasonable for you to start making what is an unjustified leap to homophobia. How you're saying that that's the most reasonable inference is beyond me.
(2017-09-28, 02:01 AM)Max_B Wrote: [ -> ]I've heard no reason yet given why the interview is inappropriate? Other than socially divisive, Africa, and Chris's threat to leave. Why do you think it is inappropriate...? That's what I don't have any clarity on at all... even if it should be allowed anywhere on psiencequest... as Ninshub is suggesting.
This may seem rather ignorant, but to me the idea that HIV isn't related to AIDS is akin to flat earth science. It's a gut reaction.
I honestly think folks are gun shy after what Alex did to Skeptiko. An OBE interview. Sure. NDE. Yes. Frankly I think UFO may be pushing it at this point.
I think some folks feel like PQ is developing a brand. And if I were developing a brand I wouldn't really want this guy's science regarding HIV attached to it. I would like to see an interview with him regarding his tenor at JSE. To me that is interesting.
(2017-09-28, 01:55 AM)Max_B Wrote: [ -> ]There is no way I'm going to continue membership of a homophobic forum, who only tolerates homosexuality if it remains hidden and unmentionable, singled out with particular significance for this treatment.
That's completely ridiculous Max, and you're clearly not reading my posts. I'm as socially liberal as they come, FYI. A complete and utter leftist on these matters. If anything, Bauer's ideas have been accused of homophobia, racism, etc*. But it's not on a Social Justice Warrior basis that I'm making my stand on this, it's because there's nothing paranormal about it. Period.
(*see
here for example)
MAX_B. Can you summarize this guy's science in a way that makes sense for PQ to host the interview. I don't think many of us really know that much about his claims, aside from HIV isn't related to AIDS. (Is that right?)
(2017-09-28, 01:55 AM)Max_B Wrote: [ -> ]Sociopolitically divisive... a lovely way to dump any topics your biased against. There is no way I'm going to continue membership of a homophobic forum, who only tolerates homosexuality if it remains hidden and unmentionable, singled out with particular significance for this treatment.
You are way out in left field on this one. Not even sure where this is coming from. I mean lots of people suffering from HIV/AIDS aren't gay.
(2017-09-28, 02:24 AM)Max_B Wrote: [ -> ]Why not try giving me a reason why discussion of hiv/aids on this forum should not be allowed? Damaging is not a reason.
How is this not a flat earth theory. Give us some idea that there is ANY validity to this.
(2017-09-28, 12:55 AM)Max_B Wrote: [ -> ]Lord, I'd never be that precious, this is a internet discussion forum covering a fringe topic, that tends to be very anti-science, with 100 members. I think the community should be grateful for any interviews that members spend their own time organising and writing up. What I'm hearing is homophobia by a handful of members... that's the unstated or hidden reason why this matter has been brought up as far as I can see. If Vortex's interview was about homeopathy etc... I doubt I'd have heard a peep.
So if I did an interview about my cats that rest of the group should appreciate it?
Listen to yourself. You make no sense.
I can see how it would be interesting if it was an interview in a New Journalism sense. If there was a lot of context surrounding the questions and answers. I guess context is going to have a bias.
Let me ask you this:
Do you think an interview with a flat earth scientist would be appropriate?
Do you listen to Highside Chats by any chance? Greg is a really nice guy. And in one of his shows lately, maybe the interview with Gordon White, he was talking about how when he started he was the guy who presented the fringiest conspiracy stuff anywhere. Now there is some stuff out there that even makes Greg blush. I don't think that PQ needs to entertain every single fringe theory just because it is fringe. We should be evaluating the idea before-hand, using some expertise, to determine if the theory has ANY merit.
(2017-09-28, 02:32 AM)Max_B Wrote: [ -> ]What is a flat earth theory? Hiv/aids?
Once again. I have to plead ignorance. I thought this guy's claim was that HIV has nothing at all to do with AIDS. That seems to fly in the face of the science of probably tens of thousands of people working in the field. Hell, they have come up with a vaccine haven't they? I think they have a pretty good understanding of HIV/AIDS at this point. Is there much mystery there?
It isn't like only a handful of people worked on HIV/AIDS. The effort was massive.