Where is Charles Tart?

It has almost been a year since Charles Tart has passed over.

Not to be a complete jerk, but we had this scientist who was very deep into altered states, reincarnation ideas, life after death... and I would like to think he made arrangements with others before his death. 
Those arrangements would likely include contact of some kind, if at all possible.

Yes, we went through this bit with Harry Houdini's promises. And we were disappointed.

I have made these contact agreements with many different people over my lifetime, and have never had any contact of any kind. Nada... And many of these were very deep emotional connections. But I get nothing.

Has anyone heard anything? Any news of contact? 

I don't really want to hear how busy he might be. 
We all know that if he could, he would, for certain. Even just to prove a point to his colleagues.

Feedback? Ideas?

It has almost been a year since Charles Tart has passed over.

Not to be a complete jerk, but we had this scientist who was very deep into altered states, reincarnation ideas, life after death... and I would like to think he made arrangements with others before his death. 
Those arrangements would likely include contact of some kind, if at all possible.

Yes, we went through this bit with Harry Houdini's promises. And we were disappointed.

I have made these contact agreements with many different people over my lifetime, and have never had any contact of any kind. Nada... And many of these were very deep emotional connections. But I get nothing.

Has anyone heard anything? Any news of contact? 

I don't really want to hear how busy he might be. 
We all know that if he could, he would, for certain. Even just to prove a point to his colleagues.

Feedback? Ideas?

1. If someone claimed Tart contacted them would it be convincing evidence?

2. I am pretty convinced of Survival. I'm not convinced it's a state of complete freedom, nor do I think it's uniform.

It has almost been a year since Charles Tart has passed over.

Not to be a complete jerk, but we had this scientist who was very deep into altered states, reincarnation ideas, life after death... and I would like to think he made arrangements with others before his death. 
Those arrangements would likely include contact of some kind, if at all possible.

Yes, we went through this bit with Harry Houdini's promises. And we were disappointed.

I have made these contact agreements with many different people over my lifetime, and have never had any contact of any kind. Nada... And many of these were very deep emotional connections. But I get nothing.

Has anyone heard anything? Any news of contact? 

I don't really want to hear how busy he might be. 
We all know that if he could, he would, for certain. Even just to prove a point to his colleagues.

Feedback? Ideas?

We know that the phenomena exists, having happen for many ~ so it is rather more puzzling why it doesn't happen for many. A lack of contact therefore means essentially nothing, because we cannot work with nothing. Which really raises the question of how contact happens in the first place ~ it can happen, so what is required for it, and why does it not happen in many circumstances, when it can happen in many others?

It at least suggests that it's not some simple and easy thing ~ but a complex phenomena that appears to have unknown requirements, perhaps for both parties, the incarnate receiver, and the disincarnate sender. Maybe the receiver cannot hear ~ maybe the sender cannot get through.

I don't think afterlife contacts give a s**t about scientific research or experiments.

Personally, I've had contact with more than one deceased relative. Not because I was hoping for or expecting anything. It came as a surprise and one case a disturbance which felt a bit wild at the time. But the angle of view, the perspective, is not technical. It is just the mundane stuff of life, the things we experience in living our lives, things which we feel, we know, but can only be expressed in poetry or art or song, because the things which are meaningful have their own energy and fire, beside which offering proof such as Houdini may or may not have wanted pales into a kind of boredom.

Well, that's my take, it's not a well-considered one, just how I feel in this moment.

I think at least some would try to deliberately make contact, like Ian Stevenson IIRC leaving some kind of combination.

I don't think it's absolute proof but it would be nice to have even if skeptics would just say it was faked anyway.

I think at least some would try to deliberately make contact, like Ian Stevenson IIRC leaving some kind of combination.

Perhaps... but at the same time, they may realize in that state that there's no point. It might explain why a majority never make contact.

I don't think it's absolute proof but it would be nice to have even if skeptics would just say it was faked anyway.

Indeed. They already do that for even stuff with veridical information, however, so nothing will placate them or change their minds.

As seen with Christoph Koch... only a raw powerful experience can seemingly change people.

I was an atheist for ages... until I started hearing voices and seeing and sensing entities. Even that took years for my fears about their being delusions to melt away.

Perhaps... but at the same time, they may realize in that state that there's no point. It might explain why a majority never make contact.

For me I believe in Survival but I don't think it's some incredible experience of freedom necessarily.

A lot of people dislike the accounts from mediumship Stafford Betty collects because those afterlives seem so mundane.

There's also an account I need to track down where someone in the afterlife talked about getting a job.

The psychedelic accounts are varied, some seem to be civilizations where reality works differently. Some Astral travelers have spoken of visiting fantastical worlds. If an afterlife is like that one might not even know how to "work the telephone" so to speak. (There are even NDEs that are bizarre in this manner, though they don't get the same press.)

All to say not everyone will be in a position to make contact.

For me I believe in Survival but I don't think it's some incredible experience of freedom necessarily.

I think it can be both freeing, and yet also restricting, in the sense that it seems incredibly difficult for souls to intervene from the outside, send messages, so on and so forth. Not including the obvious limits of our minds in being able to sense any possible contacts. If we are not skilled in mediumship or channeling or the like, it may appear impossible to us.

A lot of people dislike the accounts from mediumship Stafford Betty collects because those afterlives seem so mundane.

Any good links to research? I am curious now. How does it compare to other accounts from others? Is there any means of verifying or corroborating these accounts? Any methodologies developed?

There's also an account I need to track down where someone in the afterlife talked about getting a job.

How odd... I have to wonder if these are genuine accounts... or perhaps information filtered through the unconscious of the channeler or medium? How can we know if these accounts are as literally channeled, or whether they are unconsciously filtered interpretations where the details get distorted through what the channeler or medium can understand?

The psychedelic accounts are varied, some seem to be civilizations where reality works differently. Some Astral travelers have spoken of visiting fantastical worlds.

I can attest to this... the phoenix world I encountered in my psychedelic journeying. I had some odd thoughts that it was Japanese-like... but it also wasn't. I had to settle for the possibility that this was simply how my mind could comprehend the otherwise incomprehensible to my human psyche. The world did appear to exist ~ but I was interpreting it through a lens of semi-Japanese concepts, even though logically, that couldn't be literally how it is. I didn't have anything else to work with, though.

If an afterlife is like that one might not even know how to "work the telephone" so to speak. (There are even NDEs that are bizarre in this manner, though they don't get the same press.)

I think an afterlife proper would be even more incomprehensible. I think some mediums have reported that some souls simply don't know how to make clear contact, as if they have to learn or something, so the communication is rather vague and unclear.

All to say not everyone will be in a position to make contact.

That does appear to be the case, seemingly. As for why, who knows...