Watched Ex Maxhina again...

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Watched Ex Machina again, and was wondering; are we absolutely "wired" to respond to a likeness of a human, even if we now it is not? Would we be fooled, even though we "know" that we shouldn't? I mean, we mostly would be flipping back and forth in a conversation with one. If "it" would "push our emotional buttons" I guess we would "step back from the abyss" in our mind.  But in a long-term "relationship", would we as a human being be able to remain "detached" if the likeness and intellect was flawless in the AI?

Kids that have dolls that are exceptionally well made, to look like a person, in some cases make kids "bound" in a way that are quite unhealthy. Is it "programmed" in us, to attach, just because the likeness?
If we think of ourselves as just "meat-robots", as a product of "calculated" evolution, I guess this would seem natural. But from a dual perspective???

Given that we anthropomorphize and assign agency to moving dots, it seems pretty inevitable that we will anthropomorphize something which is similar to us.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/tho...pes-video/

Linda

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Given that we anthropomorphize and assign agency to moving dots, it seems pretty inevitable that we will anthropomorphize something which is similar to us.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/tho...pes-video/

Linda

I think, in that example, when they are using an animated movie to try to prove a point, they miss the fact that when we watch something as a play we are culturally wired to a suspension of disbelief. It's like when children, or adults, cry to an animated movie - like The Lion King. If we would create the same scenario in the real world (like creating the same actions/movements on a table, with a set of magnets), I think the response would be quite different.

I think, in that example, when they are using an animated movie to try to prove a point, they miss the fact that when we watch something as a play we are culturally wired to a suspension of disbelief. It's like when children, or adults, cry to an animated movie - like The Lion King. If we would create the same scenario in the real world (like creating the same actions/movements on a table, with a set of magnets), I think the response would be quite different.

Interesting. Why do you think they would be different? Our tendency to anthropomorphize is longstanding and predates Disney by millennia, for example.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5...-human.pdf

Linda

I think, in that example, when they are using an animated movie to try to prove a point, they miss the fact that when we watch something as a play we are culturally wired to a suspension of disbelief. It's like when children, or adults, cry to an animated movie - like The Lion King. If we would create the same scenario in the real world (like creating the same actions/movements on a table, with a set of magnets), I think the response would be quite different.

It’s difficult to say, we ourselves just seem to learn through patterns of observation. and association of those patterns, built up over time. So if such a machine was introduced to us in a social setting, without us having any previous knowledge (learning) that such machines could exist, I think most of us would be fooled. Perhaps finding the machine odd, or missing something, but willing to give it the benifit of doubt, like we would with any stranger in a social setting, even if they seemed odd.

If we knew it was a machine, and had no direct experience (learning) that it could be dangerous, and that machine had learned to emulate human responses, identify weaknesses in us, and then tap into our feelings and use them against us. Then yes, I think the plot, which takes place in an environment with very limited access to information, is feasible. As long as you’ve no other counter experiences whuch would allow you to feel things like danger, because the machine demonstrated violence, or distrust because you caught the machine lying to you etc. But the machine is going to have to be a good simulation, that is not showing things that are different.