Vaccines

Apparently I wasn't sarcastic enough.

~~ Paul

Of course, I realize you were being sarcastic. 

But what I implied was that your silly reply still didn't address what needs to be addressed though: thousands and thousands of parents connect a vaccine to their child's autism . . . because it was at the time of the vaccine that their child lost vocabulary, motor skills, social skills, including eye contact, and even things as basic as behaving in a way that showed that they knew who their parents were.  

Your "sarcastic" answer implied that the only thing connecting autism and vaccinations were an increase in the two at the same time . . . and conveniently left out the above.

You're saying you don't remember anyone on the autism spectrum when you were young? Are you sure you understand what the autism spectrum is?

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/a...ndex.shtml

~~ Paul

Do I understand what the autism spectrum is?

My son will require assistance his whole life because of autism.  Good enough for ya?

Of course, I realize you were being sarcastic. 

But what I implied was that your silly reply still didn't address what needs to be addressed though: thousands and thousands of parents connect a vaccine to their child's autism . . . because it was at the time of the vaccine that their child lost vocabulary, motor skills, social skills, including eye contact, and even things as basic as behaving in a way that showed that they knew who their parents were.  

Your "sarcastic" answer implied that the only thing connecting autism and vaccinations were an increase in the two at the same time . . . and conveniently left out the above.

Sorry, but thousands of people committing the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy doesn't do much for me. Lots of things are going on when kids are that age. What we need is more research.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28750400

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_spectrum#Causes

~~ Paul

Do I understand what the autism spectrum is?

My son will require assistance his whole life because of autism.  Good enough for ya?

I'm sorry to hear that and I hope things are going as smoothly as possible.

You said that autism has an unmistakable set of characteristics. That sounds like you're talking about one end of the spectrum. On the other end, there are many characteristics that appear with varying strengths. When we were young, there were probably many kids who today would be diagnosed with some form of ASD.

~~ Paul

People with expertise have access to the same kinds of information, yet they come to dramatically different conclusions.

For example:

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/s...-naci.html

So again, how do you know that the page you linked to presents reliable and valid information?

Linda

Ummmm probably because it links to the primary source documents to backup it's claims? Did you seriously not even spend the effort to notice that?

How do you know that this is a valid and reliable presentation given that the vast majority of people with the knowledge and experience to evaluate the research come to a dramatically different conclusion?

Linda

Wait... is your argument that more people believe it, therefore it's probably true? Just gotta clarify this before continuing.

Seriously? Health Impact News?

~~ Paul

What's wrong with it? I'm not finding any criticisms in my research. Although if you prefer there are many other articles talking about the polio vaccine myth. Go pick a few and do your due diligence.

Sorry, but thousands of people committing the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy doesn't do much for me. Lots of things are going on when kids are that age. What we need is more research.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28750400

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_spectrum#Causes

~~ Paul

Well the us governments "vaccine court" has paid out about $3 billion for vaccine related injuries including autism

https://www.hrsa.gov/sites/default/files...report.pdf

What's wrong with it? I'm not finding any criticisms in my research. Although if you prefer there are many other articles talking about the polio vaccine myth. Go pick a few and do your due diligence.

https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/healthimpactnews.com

https://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEdu...icals.html

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/health-impact-news/

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_th...p?id=80973

https://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_po...e-nonsense

And this is me attempting to ignore the fact that the article includes an interview with Jenny McCarthy.

~~ Paul

Well the us governments "vaccine court" has paid out about $3 billion for vaccine related injuries including autism

https://www.hrsa.gov/sites/default/files...report.pdf

Not much of a burden of proof in these cases.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_co...us_rulings

~~ Paul