Spacetime is just a headset: An interview with Donald Hoffman

Can you prove your Psi abilities to me?


Still waiting for some sign you actually read/watched anything of Hoffman's work...

Still waiting for some sign? Seriously? Did you glaze over the quotes from his work I literally quoted in my comments and spoke about, or are you seriously trying to show you are paying zero attention to anything I write while making ludicrous claims that aren't true?

That's a sure way of just pissing me off with your immature nonsense and comments, and you are one click away from just being blocked.

Do you even realize I was quoting him, or is it you that doesn't know the subject matter? Who is actually reading or watching here? Not you, since you would have recognized the quotes. Pfffft! You are being a turd and rude.

I'm still waiting for you to answer simple questions I've posed, which you refuse to do, while I have bent over backwards pointing out what I don't like and don't agree with in the Hoffman cult. You then just twist what I say and throw negatives at me like I'm some kind of enemy that needs to be destroyed for my lack of faith in your adopted cult ideas. You are a piece of work indeed. Get a new hobby.

Why are you arguing with me about this educated nerd turd, who IMHO, has nothing great to add to science? I don't like him, or the subject matter, and could care less if you do cuddle up to him and worship him like a cult. That is your problem. Get a life.

So, what this tells me is that you aren't even reading what I write or comment on. Get a grip.

You are just keeping the conversation going by not answering my questions and not stating what it is you think you will get from following his cult of nonsense, while trying to beat me down with off-subject and unrelated comments. Is the entire forum made up of the same A.I. that thinks this is some form of conversation or debate, some immature naysayer robots? This is senseless and useless, and I can see why this forum is dying, if not already dead.

Then, like most Randi fans, you want me to demonstrate what I have experienced to you, for whatever personal satisfaction, or because you need proof? Why should I? Are you a scientist? Are you paying me? What would motivate me to waste any time on you? Certainly not your negative Nelly comments or twisting words and making rude comments that aren't even true... hmmm. I might have made an effort if you were considerate or nice and could carry on a normal conversation without bullying.
What would you have me do that would convince you? And how many times would I have to repeat that on demand for you? 
Most everyone who has asked this sort of question is never satisfied, and always has some back door escape they think can wiggle out of, for everything I would do to prove it to you, you would have some negative comment or reason why it isn't real or true. I can't help you with that mental block. There is enough proof of Psi phenomena, with veridical evidence, without me taking a personal interest in your need for proof.

It might be tempting to stop in and show you what I can do in person, but then you would need diapers because you would likely shit yourself and need to visit a mental ward. LOL. Most people think they can handle it, but run crying or end up getting all religious instead.
How about I show up in your dreams and make you lucid?
How about I show up OOB style in your bedroom and start moving things around like a poltergeist?
Would any of that be satisfactory?
I suppose, if we have some luck, I might see something in your future and tell you about it before it happens. That might make you silent while you try and process how that is even possible.
How about I get inside your head and tell you things I couldn't possibly know?

These are just some of the things I have done, and could likely repeat with the proper motivation. But, you don't motivate me to even try, or to even want to prove anything to you, because you are becoming very annoying to me, and I have no need to prove anything at this point in my life, to anyone, for any reason other than my own choice. I know what I know, and I have experienced what I have, and there is veridical evidence of that. So I'm beyond the performance stage show mentality.

Get over yourself. I don't perform for random people like a show. My evidence is veridical already, confirmed by others.

How about I show up in your dreams and make you lucid?

That works. 

That works. 

So, you think I magically know who you are or where you live? Lol. This isn't the X-Files or X-men.

What do you think I would need for that to happen? At a minimum...

So, you think I magically know who you are or where you live? Lol. This isn't the X-Files or X-men.

What do you think I would need for that to happen? At a minimum...

So I can't verify your psychic powers without giving up personal information?

Disappointing.

I mean there's two parts to his ideas - Interface Theory of Perception and Conscious Realism.

Interface Theory is just the idea that evolution favors creating a reality of "icons" by which you navigate the world around you. This doesn't mean the world is illusion, just that you perceive a very edited version of it to enhance your survival.

Interesting ~ but I am unsure what he means by "survival" and "evolution" here.

Conscious Realism, for Hoffman, is the idea the the world is mental in some way.

So... together... the world is mental in some way, yet we navigate the world through symbols, icon, representations, structures?

Hmmmmm... what does he mean by "icons" in this regard? What does it mean for us to be perceiving an... "edited" version of reality?

You could accept one part of this and reject the other. None of this is really Simulation in the Matrix sense necessarily.

Right ~ per the video, he references Plato's Cave a lot, saying that every description will fall short, just being also part of the metaphorical simulation, as it were.

I can seem some resemblance between that and Kant's Transcendental / Critical Idealism, where we have the world-in-itself, that which contains all things of a set, and the things-in-themselves, the base structures, populating said world, but we only ever perceive a human slice of those said things ~ a possible representation of them through a human sensory lens. These representations are the "icons", I suppose. How the world is presented to us so that we can psychologically navigate the world through an understanding of those symbols.

So, while there may be no heat physically ~ mentally, we need that representation, that qualia, to work with to know whether molecules are above a certain threshold of vibration. Air is warm because the molecules in it vibrate at a certain oscillation.

So I can't verify your psychic powers without giving up personal information?

Disappointing.

Would you even bother if I told you that I needed some DNA?

You now see what I mean with people having false expectations of what it is and how it works, and this is the main reason we get nowhere with most studies.

People appear to rather chase after and debate nonsense and make-believe versions of reality puked up by eggheads. and would rather that Psi change to meet their own demands and beliefs. Funny that when it doesn't, it gets rejected, while people then still cling to cult nonsense and promote or support it.

Reality and life do not bow down to human ego, or bend to it, or change for it. We all have to face reality as it actually exists.

Would you even bother if I told you that I needed some DNA?

You now see what I mean with people having false expectations of what it is and how it works, and this is the main reason we get nowhere with most studies.

People appear to rather chase after and debate nonsense and make-believe versions of reality puked up by eggheads. and would rather that Psi change to meet their own demands and beliefs. Funny that when it doesn't, it gets rejected, while people then still cling to cult nonsense and promote or support it.

Reality and life do not bow down to human ego, or bend to it, or change for it. We all have to face reality as it actually exists.

I actually can accept that a person could have legitimate Psi ability but need certain conditions to make it work.

My point is more that it doesn't do much good to present yourself as an expert based on Psi skill if there's no reasonable way to verify it.

So if you want to debate something it's best to genuinely familiarize yourself with the material question, not finding some snippet to quote and then repeat the same rant you've posted a few times over in this thread.

I actually can accept that a person could have legitimate Psi ability but need certain conditions to make it work.

My point is more that it doesn't do much good to present yourself as an expert based on Psi skill if there's no reasonable way to verify it.

So if you want to debate something it's best to genuinely familiarize yourself with the material question, not finding some snippet to quote and then repeat the same rant you've posted a few times over in this thread.

You've been here long enough that you do know better.

And my point is that it does you no good to present yourself as an expert of some question and then repeat your requests to debate it without actually debating, but instead trying to belittle and berate anyone who says anything at all, whether that is an opinion or a quote doesn't matter. Do you not see how bad that kind of behavior is, and how detrimental it is to real conversation, opinions, and ideas?

You can't debate fantasy nonsense like Hoffman's BS. It is nothing but ignorant mental health issues that have no place in reality TO ME. Thinking it is some great idea is a loser stance to me, and nothing you say will change that. What part of that challenge is unclear to you?

If anyone were to achieve this fake ego stance Hoffman speaks of, they would no longer be human, done and over. So, lose your humanity, likely your ego and your memories, and become what? A facet of some giant universe that is stuck? Great place to be, you have fun wasting your life trying to achieve the impossible, while the rest of us move forward with what we can do in reality.

What haven't you learned in the past few days? You are still trying to bully me and talk down to me like you are some expert of the subject matter, without answering debate questions, and without supporting it with any facts or benefits.

What part of familiarize isn't clear to YOU? While you still try to tell me how to think, what to say, how to say it, and that you want some echo chamber that supports you and your beliefs and will bully anyone who doesn't share that.... wow. I should just block you now and get it over with. You are another reason this forum is dying. Another A.I. wet paper bag that has nothing new to say.

What part of familiarize isn't clear to YOU? While you still try to tell me how to think, what to say, how to say it, and that you want some echo chamber that supports you and your beliefs and will bully anyone who doesn't share that.... wow. I should just block you now and get it over with. You are another reason this forum is dying. Another A.I. wet paper bag that has nothing new to say.

So... not only is any disagreement with your absolutist statements "bullying", it is now also "AI"...?

Blocking people is not a sign of having an open mind ~ it is a sign of being unable to accept different opinions, even if you disagree with them.

When you can't just roll your eyes and move ~ but feel that you have to block posts so you can't see them, is a sign of being very emotional.