(2019-06-05, 04:15 PM)Raf999 Wrote: Sure I read that part, but I still think skeptics like Randi are needed. Also his challenge is good way to rule out people claiming ESP/PSI who are fake, like the martial arts dude who was faking everything. We have to deal with the fact that 90% or so PSI claims are fake or frauds, and exposing them is needed.
Even if the 90% fraud claim is true (or even just a thumb suck), how do you explain the other 10%?
The problem with "skeptics like Randi", and especially Randi himself, is that fraud is a real problem in their world too. Randi has been caught in lies and unscrupulous methods on several occasions. I've read his defenders claiming that deception is his business (as a stage magician) so hoaxing, etc., is fair game. I believe that is the message of the film about Randi, "A Honest Liar" (although I have not watched it). A journalist wrote a piece on that for the Telegraph which is worth reading (I've posted this before in discussions about Randi but perhaps newer members have not seen it).
James Randi: debunking the king of the debunkers
Again, I apologise if the following link has been posted elsewhere but this article by Greg Taylor of The Daily Grail should be read whenever Randi is discussed because it covers so much of the argument about the man and his methods.
The Myth of James Randi's Million Dollar Challenge
I do not make any clear distinction between mind and God. God is what mind becomes when it has passed beyond the scale of our comprehension.
Freeman Dyson
Freeman Dyson