Plato's Republic with Pierre Grimes

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Quote:Pierre Grimes, PhD, is a specialist in classical Greek philosophy. He is the founder of the American Philosophical Practitioners Association. He is also founder of the Noetic Society in the Los Angeles area. He is author of Philosophical Midwifery: A New Paradigm for Understanding Human Problems, Socrates and Jesus: A Dialogue in Heaven, and Unblocking: Removing Blocks to Understanding. He is also a decorated veteran of the second world war.

In this video from 2017 he maintains that Plato's great work, The Republic, is primarily about the soul and philosophy and only secondarily about politics. He describes the Allegory of the Cave in detail and how it depicts the imprisonment of the soul. He suggests that Plato's emphasis on the Self has been misinterpreted, and this has amounted to a betrayal of philosophy. He also emphasizes the Greek interest in dreams. Philosopher-Kings, he maintains, were the watchers of dreams.
'Historically, we may regard materialism as a system of dogma set up to combat orthodox dogma...Accordingly we find that, as ancient orthodoxies disintegrate, materialism more and more gives way to scepticism.'

- Bertrand Russell


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Quote:Pierre Grimes, PhD, is a specialist in classical Greek philosophy. He is the founder of the American Philosophical Practitioners Association. He is also founder of the Noetic Society in the Los Angeles area. He is author of Philosophical Midwifery: A New Paradigm for Understanding Human Problems, Socrates and Jesus: A Dialogue in Heaven, and Unblocking: Removing Blocks to Understanding. He is also a decorated veteran of the second world war.

In this video from 2017 he maintains that Plato's great work, The Republic, is primarily about the soul and philosophy and only secondarily about politics. He describes the Allegory of the Cave in detail and how it depicts the imprisonment of the soul. He suggests that Plato's emphasis on the Self has been misinterpreted, and this has amounted to a betrayal of philosophy. He also emphasizes the Greek interest in dreams. Philosopher-Kings, he maintains, were the watchers of dreams.

That's interesting... I haven't watched the video yet. I've attempted Plato's work before, but been defeated by the style, lots of repetition in the conversation that I just can't hold onto as I'm reading... But after seeing this post, I spent an hour or two this morning skimming the first two Books of Republic very fast to try and get an impression, and yes, I could spot some parallels with the later Gospel of Thomas sayings (which are far more condensed)... I then skipped right to the end, and there Plato recounts a very detailed NDE... which I did not know about. I will watch this interview when I get time.
We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring 
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.
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