(2017-09-12, 07:23 PM)Pssst Wrote: The apport does not solidify from the eye socket until it is being ejected. Wrote: Forgive me, but I can't discern that from the video posted here. In this video, the apport can be seen pushing up under his eyelid. I would still want stronger controls against the sort of tricks I described.
I know of no trick for expelling ingested material through the ear canal; those apports, I have no explanation for.
Will
I was there. Within two feet of Kai's eyeball.
The process of apportation has been explained.
(2017-09-13, 06:45 PM)Mazda Wrote: Estelle Roberts has a story about apports.
from her book '50 years a medium'
Estelle Roberts 50 Years
(2017-09-13, 07:07 PM)Pssst Wrote: I was there. Within two feet of Kai's eyeball.
The process of apportation has been explained.
I hope you don't find this offensive, but I do not find these types of personal testimonies leading to absolute statements convincing.
I get what Will and others are wrestling with. I thought the "open letter" did a pretty bang up job of explaining this perspective.
(2017-09-13, 08:28 PM)Silence Wrote: I hope you don't find this offensive, but I do not find these types of personal testimonies leading to absolute statements convincing. I get what Will and others are wrestling with. I thought the "open letter" did a pretty bang up job of explaining this perspective.
Offensive? lol it's none of my business what you do or do not believe and it is absolutely not within my objectives or power to convince you of one darn thing.
(2017-09-13, 08:41 PM)Pssst Wrote: Offensive? lol it's none of my business what you do or do not believe and it is absolutely not within my objectives or power to convince you of one darn thing.
Fair enough.
Curious, might I ask what are your objectives here?
(2017-09-13, 08:53 PM)Silence Wrote: Fair enough.
Curious, might I ask what are your objectives here?
Don't have any. I post because I find it enjoyable, in the next moment, I may be gone (as several on this forum can attest to). The only objective I have is to be myself and that is a responsibility I owe not only myself but all others.
(2017-09-13, 08:58 PM)Pssst Wrote: Don't have any. I post because I find it enjoyable, in the next moment, I may be gone (as several on this forum can attest to). The only objective I have is to be myself and that is a responsibility I owe not only myself but all others.
Appreciate your thoughts for as long as we have access to them... 
Pssst Wrote:
Don't have any. I post because I find it enjoyable, in the next moment, I may be gone (as several on this forum can attest to). The only objective I have is to be myself and that is a responsibility I owe not only myself but all others.
(2017-09-13, 09:06 PM)jkmac Wrote: Appreciate your thoughts for as long as we have access to them...
Thank you kindly for that. 
(2017-09-13, 09:11 PM)Pssst Wrote: Pssst Wrote:
Don't have any. I post because I find it enjoyable, in the next moment, I may be gone (as several on this forum can attest to). The only objective I have is to be myself and that is a responsibility I owe not only myself but all others.
Thank you kindly for that.
Now I'm having my doubts... 
(2017-09-13, 08:28 PM)Silence Wrote: I hope you don't find this offensive, but I do not find these types of personal testimonies leading to absolute statements convincing.
I get what Will and others are wrestling with. I thought the "open letter" did a pretty bang up job of explaining this perspective.
Through that open letter, I found a link leading to a PDF of Michael Nahm's paper; I've not yet had a chance to read it in full, but I'm eager to know what his ultimate takeaway was.
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