People that sit on the both side what do you think about the propnet and skeptic?

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To say nothing of the fact that a world bereft of substantial mystery, would be a spiritual and intellectual ghetto, in my opinion.
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(2019-06-25, 01:01 AM)Oleo Wrote: To say nothing of the fact that a world bereft of substantial mystery, would be a spiritual and intellectual ghetto, in my opinion.

That's the crux for belief. It's really a narcissistic perspective.
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About spoons. Have none of you heard of spoons made from the metal Gallium? 
Has there ever been a video of a spoon being unbent after being bent? Not to my knowledge.
The fact that not a single spoon has been bent in controlled conditions makes it a fake, at least to me. It would be such a simple experiment yet nobody did that, you should start asking why.
(2019-06-25, 11:33 AM)Steve001 Wrote: That's the crux for belief. It's really a narcissistic perspective.


You seem to think as though it is such a negative thing to have an opinion such as Oleo's. Narcissistic is a bit much, no?
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(2019-06-25, 11:37 AM)Steve001 Wrote: About spoons. Have none of you heard of spoons made from the metal Gallium? 
Has there ever been a video of a spoon being unbent after being bent? Not to my knowledge.

Thanks. I hadn't, but I think Dean Radin probably had, because he commented on his blog:
"People have previously asked if it might have been a trick spoon. I don't think so. If it were setup to become soft after reaching skin temperature, then it would immediately fall apart or bend or melt when stuck in boiling water. It doesn't."
http://deanradin.blogspot.com/2006/06/do...spoon.html

But perhaps all this talk of Radin's spoon is off-topic here. I've started a new thread where people can continue discussing it if they want to:
https://psiencequest.net/forums/thread-d...in-s-spoon
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(2019-06-25, 12:44 PM)Chris Wrote: Thanks. I hadn't, but I think Dean Radin probably had, because he commented on his blog:
"People have previously asked if it might have been a trick spoon. I don't think so. If it were setup to become soft after reaching skin temperature, then it would immediately fall apart or bend or melt when stuck in boiling water. It doesn't."
http://deanradin.blogspot.com/2006/06/do...spoon.html

But perhaps all this talk of Radin's spoon is off-topic here. I've started a new thread where people can continue discussing it if they want to:
https://psiencequest.net/forums/thread-d...in-s-spoon

Nope... we'll stay on this forum thanks, rather than what I think is a sneaky attempt to try and move it out of the Skeptic vs Proponent forum... to prevent other Skeptics contributing further...

You wrote...
Dean Radin attended a spoon-bending party, and was surprised when a spoon became soft in his hands and he was able to bend it. His conclusion was:
"I have no easy explanation for this phenomenon, but I cannot deny my own experience. This bend was not due to a conjuring trick or to enhanced strength that can potentially arise in certain dissociated states."
http://www.deanradin.com/spoon.htm

There's some further discussion of the spoon on his blog:
http://deanradin.blogspot.com/2006/06/do...spoon.html
We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring 
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.
(2019-06-25, 12:44 PM)Chris Wrote: Thanks. I hadn't, but I think Dean Radin probably had, because he commented on his blog:
"People have previously asked if it might have been a trick spoon. I don't think so. If it were setup to become soft after reaching skin temperature, then it would immediately fall apart or bend or melt when stuck in boiling water. It doesn't."
http://deanradin.blogspot.com/2006/06/do...spoon.html

But perhaps all this talk of Radin's spoon is off-topic here. I've started a new thread where people can continue discussing it if they want to:
https://psiencequest.net/forums/thread-d...in-s-spoon



There is a video of Shermer on youtube having exactly the same thing done to him... somewhere into the session, the spoon bender gives him a large silver serving spoon, and asks him to bend the bowl of it... which he does...

There is clearly something interesting going... why these big silver spoons... and why bending the bowl... Radin had exactly the same thing done to him... presented with a big silver spoon, and then asked to bend the bowl... looks suspicious to me... once again both spoons were provided...

We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring 
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.
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The spoons are clearly treated before. Make them do this with a spoon provided by researchers, otherwise it's a fake.
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(2019-06-25, 12:12 PM)Raf999 Wrote:  It would be such a simple experiment yet nobody did that, you should start asking why.

There are many reasons why that is unlikely. Oleo expressed 2 in post 31.

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