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(2019-06-26, 01:39 PM)Raf999 Wrote: There are no psychic martial artists. Youcan't fight anybody with PK or telepathy or whatever, just look at the web and watch dozens of chi master get beaten by low tier MMA fighters.

I'm aware, that was the point, I was being sarcastic. That being said, who knows what the future holds and what could be developed.
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(2019-06-26, 04:44 PM)Mediochre Wrote: I'm aware, that was the point, I was being sarcastic. That being said, who knows what the future holds and what could be developed.

Oh, sorry, i thought you were fallen into the "bullshido" trap Big Grin I've seen people really believing that chi master could defeat opponents with their own minds, which proved to be totally fake.
(2019-06-26, 01:39 PM)Raf999 Wrote: There are no psychic martial artists. Youcan't fight anybody with PK or telepathy or whatever, just look at the web and watch dozens of chi master get beaten by low tier MMA fighters.


Also, I can't help but notice that you seem to spend quite a lot of time on here saying little more on the subject of PK than "it can't be done". Although you're not wrong that proving it would be rather simple, you're sheer arrogance about it shows a total lack of awareness about things like the history of engineering and technological development. There were times before everything around us existed and many example of people, including high profile people of the day, declaring adamantly that they couldn't exist. My favourite historical example being iron clad / iron hulled ships. And then, through the hard work of other people who  had a desire for it to be real they eventually got developed. Not all of them were successful right away, Charles Babbage for example. But one thing is certain, it wasn't the people claiming it didn't or couldn't exist that pushed things forward.

When someone like you comes out declaring that PK "doesn't exist" then what you're literally saying is that physics itself must have changed spontaneously to allow those things to exist in that moment. At one time you really couldn't make an iron hulled ship, and then physics changed and now you could. That's what a declaration of something not being possible means as far as the implications go.

So my question for you is do you want PK to exist?

If yes, then a much more constructive use of your time would probably be to try developing it and ironing out all the potential errors in your methods so that you can not only know its actually working but that you can get it to a practical level, so that perhaps one day PK could be used in a fight, for example. Y'know, like what I spend my time on. Armchair critics are't worth anything.

If no, then why are you even bothering? Yes, we get it, high level everyday practical use PK doesn't exist today. No one on this forum is going to disagree on that. Yes, spoon bending and psi wheels as they've currently been demonstrated aren't very impressive even if they are real PK. That's real great that you keep pointing it out along with how much you love James Randi and how he debunked Uri Geller. But if under all that is a lack of desire for it to become real or even a desire for it to not be real then just admit it and move on.
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(2019-06-26, 05:32 PM)Mediochre Wrote: Also, I can't help but notice that you seem to spend quite a lot of time on here saying little more on the subject of PK than "it can't be done". Although you're not wrong that proving it would be rather simple, you're sheer arrogance about it shows a total lack of awareness about things like the history of engineering and technological development. There were times before everything around us existed and many example of people, including high profile people of the day, declaring adamantly that they couldn't exist. My favourite historical example being iron clad / iron hulled ships. And then, through the hard work of other people who  had a desire for it to be real they eventually got developed. Not all of them were successful right away, Charles Babbage for example. But one thing is certain, it wasn't the people claiming it didn't or couldn't exist that pushed things forward.

When someone like you comes out declaring that PK "doesn't exist" then what you're literally saying is that physics itself must have changed spontaneously to allow those things to exist in that moment. At one time you really couldn't make an iron hulled ship, and then physics changed and now you could. That's what a declaration of something not being possible means as far as the implications go.

So my question for you is do you want PK to exist?

If yes, then a much more constructive use of your time would probably be to try developing it and ironing out all the potential errors in your methods so that you can not only know its actually working but that you can get it to a practical level, so that perhaps one day PK could be used in a fight, for example. Y'know, like what I spend my time on. Armchair critics are't worth anything.

If no, then why are you even bothering? Yes, we get it, high level everyday practical use PK doesn't exist today. No one on this forum is going to disagree on that. Yes, spoon bending and psi wheels as they've currently been demonstrated aren't very impressive even if they are real PK. That's real great that you keep pointing it out along with how much you love James Randi and how he debunked Uri Geller. But if under all that is a lack of desire for it to become real or even a desire for it to not be real then just admit it and move on.

I very much qwish PK, or any ESP power, to be real. Would make the world a lot more interesting. Sadly, I  have yet to find compelling evidence for it. All I've found are either debunked magicians or badly studied phenomena. Surely, even if PK was a thing, it has no use in martial arts. Believe me I've practiced muay thai for years, no geller like feat will beat a powerful high kick Big Grin
(2019-06-26, 05:36 PM)Raf999 Wrote: I very much qwish PK, or any ESP power, to be real. Would make the world a lot more interesting. Sadly, I  have yet to find compelling evidence for it. All I've found are either debunked magicians or badly studied phenomena. Surely, even if PK was a thing, it has no use in martial arts. Believe me I've practiced muay thai for years, no geller like feat will beat a powerful high kick Big Grin


And I've practised Taeknowndo, Kung Fu, and a lot of self study and development besides. Honestly, you just sound like a quitter. If you want it to be real, go develop it. The work I'm doing is specifically to condense energy into a solid tangible form. Somethign that, based on the results of other experiments, should be plainly visible to the naked eye. A feat I know is possible due to many, many, many experiments across multiple areas including remote viewing, astral projection, shared dream induction, sensory deprivation  reactions, physical training and so on. It's ridiculously unstable and hard to achieve, but I have every reason to believe it's achievable.

If successful it absolutely would beat a powerful high kick because it would be a bolt of raw kinetic energy that could be thrown at a target from long range. Let alone other uses far beyond that. No high kick will beat that in the same way it won't beat a gun. No, I have not achieved this yet, but I've certainly achieved the various puzzle pieces of it and now it's a matter of figuring out how to put that puzzle together so that it can be easily demonstrated.

But I only achieved that because I had a desire and I didn't just stop at looking at other peoples work and then criticising it when it didn't show me what I wanted. Nor did I stop when I had long strings of unsuccessful experiments. I kept at it, kept refining, kept looking for ways to get around the various problems with friction, time and mental states, kept looking for any relationship I could exploit to make it more stable and powerful. As confident as I am that this is achievable, until I've done it, I haven't. If nothing else, people like you are inspiring because I know you'll never achieve anything since you give up so easily. Even if I don't manage to achieve it in my lifetime, someone else will. But it won't be someone like you, that's for sure.
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(2019-06-26, 06:13 PM)Mediochre Wrote: And I've practised Taeknowndo, Kung Fu, and a lot of self study and development besides. Honestly, you just sound like a quitter. If you want it to be real, go develop it. The work I'm doing is specifically to condense energy into a solid tangible form. Somethign that, based on the results of other experiments, should be plainly visible to the naked eye. A feat I know is possible due to many, many, many experiments across multiple areas including remote viewing, astral projection, shared dream induction, sensory deprivation  reactions, physical training and so on. It's ridiculously unstable and hard to achieve, but I have every reason to believe it's achievable.

If successful it absolutely would beat a powerful high kick because it would be a bolt of raw kinetic energy that could be thrown at a target from long range. Let alone other uses far beyond that. No high kick will beat that in the same way it won't beat a gun. No, I have not achieved this yet, but I've certainly achieved the various puzzle pieces of it and now it's a matter of figuring out how to put that puzzle together so that it can be easily demonstrated.

But I only achieved that because I had a desire and I didn't just stop at looking at other peoples work and then criticising it when it didn't show me what I wanted. Nor did I stop when I had long strings of unsuccessful experiments. I kept at it, kept refining, kept looking for ways to get around the various problems with friction, time and mental states, kept looking for any relationship I could exploit to make it more stable and powerful. As confident as I am that this is achievable, until I've done it, I haven't. If nothing else, people like you are inspiring because I know you'll never achieve anything since you give up so easily. Even if I don't manage to achieve it in my lifetime, someone else will. But it won't be someone like you, that's for sure.
Well, I doubt that what you propose to do is possible, but I wish you luck. If you manage to do it you'll change the way we know the world.
(2019-06-26, 06:27 PM)Raf999 Wrote: Well, I doubt that what you propose to do is possible, but I wish you luck. If you manage to do it you'll change the way we know the world.

Not gonna lie I also didn't think I'd get to the stage I'm at now let alone my actual end goal either. A lot of the stuff that's happened I didn't really think would happen, but it did. My entire goal with this is to change the world, hopefully for the better. But only time will tell if I can pull it off.
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