Greyson NDE Scale & the Future of Recalled Experience of Death Research

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Quote:Over 40 years ago, Dr. Bruce Greyson, a pioneer in the study of death experiences, created the first ever scale used to standardize identification of near death experiences. In this presentation, researchers Annalise Dickinson and Dr. Sam Parnia discuss the Greyson NDE scale, it's achievements and limitations, and propose future models of identifying recalled experiences of death.
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(2024-12-13, 03:31 AM)Sciborg_S_Patel Wrote:

1. The lack of scoring points available on the Greyson NDE Scale questionnaire for distressing NDE's was not mentioned in the limitations section of the video.

2. Using a questionnaire to categorise a sub-group of a particular type of recalled experience, from the pool of all recalled experiences group, is useful, only in so far as making comparisons between groups.

3. Any questionnaire cannot be used to quantify whether you did/did not have a near death experience.

4. Only the anomalous recalled visual OBE component of the NDE can be measured for accuracy... and therefore provide some scientific evidence for, or against, the anomalous claims of apparently veridical visual OBE's. No researchers are doing such research... after decades.
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Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.
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(2024-12-14, 12:32 PM)Max_B Wrote: 1. The lack of scoring points available on the Greyson NDE Scale questionnaire for distressing NDE's was not mentioned in the limitations section of the video.

2. Using a questionnaire to categorise a sub-group of a particular type of recalled experience, from the pool of all recalled experiences group, is useful, only in so far as making comparisons between groups.

3. Any questionnaire cannot be used to quantify whether you did/did not have a near death experience.

4. Only the anomalous recalled visual OBE component of the NDE can be measured for accuracy... and therefore provide some scientific evidence for, or against, the anomalous claims of apparently veridical visual OBE's. No researchers are doing such research... after decades.

1. Perhaps part of the lacking of scoring points might be because so many distressing experiences either transform into positive ones or aren't really NDEs because there isn't enough association with other points which are common in relation to each other?

3. Well... it sort of can to a degree, because we can figure out common elements to near death experiences, and then try to figure out whether someone did have enough of these elements to distinguish between an actual death experience, and what was merely a hallucination caused by coming close to dying, but not really getting there. Like, drug overdoses ~ people can have insane hellish hallucinations, but not actually properly die, even if they're close to the edge before being revived, so they never cross over even if they would traditionally do so before the advent of modern medicine ~ narcan, etc.

4. Well, we can measure other recalled aspects in addition to visual OBEs, because the latter informs the reality of the former to a degree. But one first needs confirmation of OBE to have a backdrop by which to explore the other details.
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